Fowler at 6.5 doesn’t make that nice either.

At 6.5 it gives us 13 mill to pay/replace all of Mercer toffoli Schmid and McLeod.

Then we still have that 6.5 on the books (the only thing coming off the books is viteks contract) when trying to pay Luke and Holtz

Let alone giving up all those assets.

Let’s value a 1st at 6 mill and Leemo at 3.

That means that Fowler has to be at least 8mill AAV better than Bahl over the next 3 years to justify that contract and those assets, assuming we give bahl a 1x2.5 after his deal is up

Will he even be better than bahl at all when bahl is 26 and he’s 34? Maybe, maybe not

If Cam Fowler was a UFA right now what would your offer be?

Maybe ~ $5.5m x 4 years, 3 years if we would take it.

Hanifin still makes the most sense because he is a good player coming from a system where they play similarly to NJD. But unless we want strict rental…he will likely cost same or more.

I don’t know where Bahl>Fowler comes from. Tintin said the same. Do you think Bahl plays 25 minutes a night in Anaheim?

Okay…than how do you value the 6 seasons of paying Hanifin $7m after 2026 vs having that cap space once Fowler expires?

Cannot measure the value of cap space vs value of players.

I value those positively. I’d be fine with Hanifin at 6.5 for those years. And I’d be willing to move on from a Marino, or sell a palat, or a Mercer, or a holtz to hold onto those years. Or you sell Hanifin along further to another team to make space, even if it’s for nothing.

Theres no reason to move other assets to hold onto 1 year of Fowler at a price I wouldn’t even want to pay him.

Exactly. If he was on the open market you’d offer him 5.5 in cap and 0 in other assets. Then why on earth would you want to get him at 6.5 in cap and a HAUL in other assets

Bahl is not better than Fowler.

I’d value bahl around 2.5 mill right now, with some upside.

Fowler costs 5.5 mill AAV more than bahl, so in order for that straight up swap to make sense, Fowler would have to be valued around 8 mill.

Then adding on the cost of giving up a 1st and recent 2nd, which I’d value around 9 mill (or 3x3)

That would mean in order for me to want to make this deal, I’d have to value Fowler as an 11 million dollar. I certainly don’t.

Or for another comparable: we’re paying here approximately the Chychrun price.

For a worse, much older, 2 mill AAV more expensive player.

Big thanks to A&R for tacitly vindicating an old take of mine.