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Deadline Prediction

Créé par: cooliny
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 28 nov. 2023
Publié: 28 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
One heck of a bottom 6 to play against. Would prefer other options on D such as Bear or Borgen or Tanev but management seems to love Milstein and his clients!
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VAN
  1. Hartman, Ryan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Comparable: Barclay Goodrow, Blake Coleman
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CGY
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Comparable: Nikita Zadorov, Luke Schenn
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 071 667 $850 000 $0 $428 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
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UFA - 2
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
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UFA - 3
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1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
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UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
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UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 2

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28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 1
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Zadorov has gained value since we traded for him. And he also has a contract
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28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 6
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Bad Comparison. Zadorov >>> Schenn

Schenn’s just an Old, Slow, Goon = Pylon

Big-Z’s Comparables are Chiarot and CLB’s Savard & Gavrikov
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28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 11
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Bad Comparison. Zadorov >>> Schenn

Schenn’s just an Old, Slow, Goon = Pylon

Big-Z’s Comparables are Chiarot and CLB’s Savard & Gavrikov


No one's giving CGY a 1st for Zadorov...
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28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 13
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Quoting: cooliny
No one's giving CGY a 1st for Zadorov...

What do you know that I don’t!?

With retention, he’ll for sure fetch the equivalent of a 1st at the Deadline, especially if he goes with an extension negotiated before hand and signed upon arrival

Too much interest and demand for him not too. The Highest Bid Wins a Bidding War, not the Lowest….
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28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 19
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Quoting: KingofRnR
What do you know that I don’t!?

With retention, he’ll for sure fetch the equivalent of a 1st at the Deadline, especially if he goes with an extension negotiated before hand and signed upon arrival

Too much interest and demand for him not too. The Highest Bid Wins a Bidding War, not the Lowest….


Does that mean Myers goes for a 1st too? He's been debatably better than Zadorov this season
28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 23
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He was coming off a 4 goal season when traded for a 3rd.

He's now coming off a 14 goal season playing a lot of top 4 minutes.

Yesterday's price is not today's price.
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28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 24
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Quoting: cooliny
Does that mean Myers goes for a 1st too? He's been debatably better than Zadorov this season

If you’re going straight off points, sure, Myers is having a better year, but Zadorov is 6 years Younger, more consistent, better overall and is the prime candidate for a long-term 4-6 year extension; whereas Myers is not

If you were to get Myers 75% Retained, so his Cap Hit is just $1.5mil, yeah you might get a 1st for him at the Deadline, but Zadorov for sure does retained and/or with an extension for reasons I mentioned already above
28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 24
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Quoting: KingofRnR
If you’re going straight off points, sure, Myers is having a better year, but Zadorov is 6 years Younger, more consistent, better overall and is the prime candidate for a long-term 4-6 year extension; whereas Myers is not

If you were to get Myers 75% Retained, so his Cap Hit is just $1.5mil, yeah you might get a 1st for him at the Deadline, but Zadorov for sure does retained and/or with an extension for reasons I mentioned already above


Any 4-6 year extension is asking for a Myers situation lol
28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 28
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Quoting: KingofRnR
If you’re going straight off points, sure, Myers is having a better year, but Zadorov is 6 years Younger, more consistent, better overall and is the prime candidate for a long-term 4-6 year extension; whereas Myers is not

If you were to get Myers 75% Retained, so his Cap Hit is just $1.5mil, yeah you might get a 1st for him at the Deadline, but Zadorov for sure does retained and/or with an extension for reasons I mentioned already above


Isn't Myers in a weird situation, with his salary being front loaded this year, so any retention is basically a technicality?

Trade comparisons are kinda silly. The price is whatever someone will pay. I'm looking at you Jeannot.
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28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 29
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Quoting: oilfire
Isn't Myers in a weird situation, with his salary being front loaded this year, so any retention is basically a technicality?

Trade comparisons are kinda silly. The price is whatever someone will pay. I'm looking at you Jeannot.


Really the only difference between Zadorov and Myers is that there seems to be a market for Zadorov, not really anything major separates the two
28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 30
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Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
Any 4-6 year extension is asking for a Myers situation lol

I don’t get what’s funny about that statement, but okay 🙄

Other than last season, Myers has played fine. It’s just his Cap Hit that was so brutal and gave him negative value in the Flat Cap Era

Zadorov will be 2 years Younger when signing for $4-5.25mil/yr with an escalating Cap Environment ahead
28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 35
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Quoting: cooliny
Really the only difference between Zadorov and Myers is that there seems to be a market for Zadorov, not really anything major separates the two

What about Age!? Zadorov’s substantially more Physical, Mean and Gritty and he typically provides 50% greater offence than Myers…. That said, Myers is the better defensive defender and has value being an RD

Comes down to Age & Cap Hit primarily
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28 nov. 2023 à 22 h 36
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Really the only difference between Zadorov and Myers is that there seems to be a market for Zadorov, not really anything major separates the two


One of thems a right shot, is four years older, almost twice as expensive, and has spent the last few seasons maligned as a liability.

Other than that, exactly the same, twinsies.
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30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 12
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Zadorov has gained value since we traded for him. And he also has a contract


Quoting: KingofRnR
Bad Comparison. Zadorov >>> Schenn

Schenn’s just an Old, Slow, Goon = Pylon

Big-Z’s Comparables are Chiarot and CLB’s Savard & Gavrikov


Quoting: oilfire
He was coming off a 4 goal season when traded for a 3rd.

He's now coming off a 14 goal season playing a lot of top 4 minutes.

Yesterday's price is not today's price.


Ooooof
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30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 14
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Ooooof


Valid point, but have you considered, meh?
 
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