Jackets decline. We arent retaining that amount on Peeke. We also have no interest in 2 rentals.

Oilers have no interest in a cap dump defensemen that has no idea how to play defence

Oilers aren’t trading the 2024 1st that’s just not realistic also they aren’t giving up Broberg to receive Bjugstad also not realistic at all

I think the Hawks don't even consider this deal, even with NOTHING going back to EDM. Taking on Campbell's and Ceci's contracts by themselves will cost a LOT more than a single 1st round pick. But with the Hawks adding Mrazek, Murphy, and Perry (with retention, no less!) to EDM's return, it'd take a LOT more in high picks and top prospects; likely, much more than the EDM would consider.

AZ pass Bjug is on 56pt pace and only veteran C on the team. funny thing you had him end of last year didnt resign

lol ok

I’m sorry but you have no idea what ur talking about about ceci isn’t a cap dump

The oilers didn’t pay for the dump of Campbell let alone everything the hawks are giving up as well. Not even close to the hawks accepting

Okay... Good luck!

Where did he say Ceci was a cap dump? You put words in someone’s mouth and then claim the person making statement has no idea what they are talking about, so in fact it is you who has no idea what you are talking about.

Thanks, Snowhawk. I didn't even want to get into it with him, so just let it go.... I liked your succinct response, tho!

Ceci might be a cap casualty vs a camp dump, but to the Hawks it's all about his AVV. They aren't in the "win now" business, so it's his cap hit that's most relevant to them, IMO... He's gonna be LONG GONE by the time the Hawks are relevant again.

Cheers

Agree with this. Value is good. I'd be tempted just because I still have hopes for Broberg and they need NHL-ready D, but they are even thinner at C right now with injuries.
Would strongly reconsider something like this closer to the deadline if/when they drop down the standings with the injuries, but they need what Bjugstad is bringing right now. They don't need to win this season, but they can't go back to being uncompetitive everynight.

Idk if u can read or not but he said “taking on campbells and ceci contracts will cost a lot” that is pretty much insisting that ceci is a cap dump but ok man maybe try reading.

unless AZ goes out and gets top 6 C, next year is 24yo hayton and mcbain and 20yo cooley in the middle still going to need bjug next year. geekie cant see as ready (20yo next year) and i dont see a top 6 C in prospect pool. I wouldnt mind GMBA kick around on CAL Lindholm he would be a solid top 6 C turning 29yo if could get on 5 yr deal.

I'd be fine with Hayton, Cooley, McBain as the top three centers next year, to be honest. But doing it now while they are all banged up and trying to hold on to their position in the Central would be dumb.
They should be giving Jenik and Smith some time at center in the NHL while the injury bug is here, and see what they've got depthwise. Kerfoot and Boyd are emergency options for now, but neither is ideal. Things are so bad In the top six they tried Schmaltz at center again. Not a good time to trade Bjugstad. Closer to the deadline if they fold, I'd be happy to deal him for the right return.

completely agree now now can trade any C. C is weakest position and in the pool is Geekie (not close to NHL ready) and jenik/smith (I dont see as top 6 C), for this trade bromberg is nice on the cusp D but we are not lacking in D prospects - kesselring, koly, soda, duda, szuber, mavrik and simashev - most wont be top 4 but someone should jump up.

So then by your definition every trade is a cap dump because the acquiring team takes on a players contract.

I can read just fine, you on the other hand lack comprehension skills.

“So taking on campbell and ceci contract will cost a 1st”

Please tell me what that means please cause apparently I don’t know what that means and can’t comprehend maybe you can tell me

Are you sure you can read just fine?

It could mean the person who posted this believes that by adding Ceci it reduces the draft compensation required to be paid the Oilers to move Campbell’s contract.

So for example maybe the creator of this post believes it would cost a 1st and 2nd round pick to trade Campbell’s contract but if they add Ceci now only a 1st round pick is required. In this scenario that would mean Ceci has a 2nd round value and IS NOT a cap dump… understand? Read slow, you will figure it out.

Yeah you definitely don’t know how to read LMAO

“Taking on ceci and campbells contract will take a lot more than just a single 1st”

So the creator of this post is insisting that they are cap dumps and will cost more than just one first to take on both contracts glad we cleared this confusion or maybe you are still confused with those terrific Comprehension skills you have.

If he said for example “taking on campbells contract will cost a lot more than ceci and single 1st” then maybe it could mean exactly what you are saying but hey not everyone knows how to comprehend I guess

I'm gonna go ahead and call a spade a spade here. Ceci is a cap dump, IMO. If EDM needs cap space to make moves work and he is the expendable one that no other team is paying for, he is a dump. He has no value to CHI. He is not a long term piece. We don't want him outside of being paid to take his salary. That is a dump. BUT if you can find another team to take him, go for it. This proposal still needs to pay for dumping Campbell AND all the pieces EDM is getting back. And that isn't even NEARLY enough to dump Campbell without all those pieces CHI is sending.

I don’t think he is a cap dump and is a solid top 4RD but I can u derstand why he would have no value to CHI

For sure. It has more to do with the fact that CHI is currently in the business of collecting draft capital, young players, and luck of the draw cap dumps. Dickinson, for example, he was going nowhere fast with VAN. They paid us to take on his salary. We had zero expectations for him and were just happy to get the picks and creating some roster space at LHD by moving Stillman. Low and behold Dickinson bounced back in a Hawks sweater and we are likely gonna get to double dip moving him at the TDL and getting more assets. And that is the kind of stuff KD is looking to do at this point in the rebuild. Although, anyones guess is as good as mine when the pivot away from those tactics is going to come and he starts paying for assets to build our roster up.