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Granato magic

Créé par: Shibbal18
Équipe: 2023-24 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 22 nov. 2023
Publié: 22 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 000 000 $
Transactions
BUF
  1. Laine, Patrik
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $77 385 237 $0 $4 307 500 $6 114 763 $

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NMC
UFA - 4
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UFA - 7
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C, AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
7 100 000 $7 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 7
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
855 833 $855 833 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 285 714 $4 285 714 $
DG
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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837 500 $837 500 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
DD
UFA - 3
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DG/DD
RFA - 1

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22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 18
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Why give such a big package for someone that was just healthy scratch? CBJ does not have leverage here
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22 nov. 2023 à 14 h 16
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Why give such a big package for someone that was just healthy scratch? CBJ does not have leverage here


Yeah id probably swap out Ostland with Wahlberg looking at this, but other than that I don't think it's that big
22 nov. 2023 à 14 h 17
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Yeah id probably swap out Ostland with Wahlberg looking at this, but other than that I don't think it's that big


It’s a BIG overpay for someone who isn’t that good to begin with
Why do u even want Laine???
22 nov. 2023 à 14 h 42
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It’s a BIG overpay for someone who isn’t that good to begin with
Why do u even want Laine???


Granato will bring back that 40 goal player
22 nov. 2023 à 14 h 48
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Maybe I'm crazy, but if I'm going to get a forward, I'm either going after a two way center that can win draws, or maybe a hockey player with some nasty to replace our 4th liners. Both Kane and Laine could potentially bring some offense in a very loose granato system. I'm not convinced that system leads to sustained wins. I don't get a vote though, and the owner does like shiny new toys, so it's not unrealistic, I would go another way though.
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22 nov. 2023 à 15 h 15
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Shibbal post more, it's a better interweb when you are here. Even when I don't agree with your trades! Happy Thanksgiving.
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22 nov. 2023 à 16 h 32
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Quoting: kclar
Why give such a big package for someone that was just healthy scratch? CBJ does not have leverage here


He’s had a rough start to the year, but he’s a big, skilled, talented scorer who can get you 30-35 goal pace consistently who can also line up at center if you’re in a disaster granted, can’t do it that well, and is signed for two more after this year. It’s intriguing.

But I’m not sure that’s what we should go for. I think we need to lean into the defense and acquire someone who is good on draws for the bottom six, acquire a forward with grit who is hard to play against like a Foligno, and look for another quality defenseman if they can upgrade over Jokiharju. Mario Ferraro comes to mind immediately.
22 nov. 2023 à 17 h 32
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I think the package may be OK if there is a 2mil to 2.5mil retain on Laine and the pick is top 10 protected
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22 nov. 2023 à 17 h 57
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
It’s a BIG overpay for someone who isn’t that good to begin with
Why do u even want Laine???



Comrie, Krebs and Olof are basically all dumps, Krebs is a 4th Liner who can't win FO and a healthy scratch.
22 nov. 2023 à 18 h 46
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Quoting: Burnzie8_88_4Cup
Comrie, Krebs and Olof are basically all dumps, Krebs is a 4th Liner who can't win FO and a healthy scratch.


Krebs value is NOT as a “dump”
That’s preposterous
22 nov. 2023 à 18 h 47
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Granato will bring back that 40 goal player


Even if that true- and it’s pretty improbable- you pay for what he’s worth NOW, not what he was worth years ago
22 nov. 2023 à 19 h 49
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Even if that true- and it’s pretty improbable- you pay for what he’s worth NOW, not what he was worth years ago


Same goes for Krebs though. Laine right now is worth a conditional 1st and a prospect id think
23 nov. 2023 à 2 h 1
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Same goes for Krebs though. Laine right now is worth a conditional 1st and a prospect id think


Lol
Ok, for argument’s sake….
Let’s just say that all u we’re giving up was Ostlund & a 1st

I still see absolutely no reason why a forward who doesn’t play defense is your target?

And with an $8.7mil Cap hit,
it’s just a dumb gamble that he’ll get back to being a 40 goal scorer

I’m sorry dude, but Laine is just an absolutely horrible idea
 
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