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Créé par: Mikael_Smith
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 13 nov. 2023
Publié: 14 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher (2 250 000 $ retained)
  2. Zadorov, Nikita (1 875 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
CGY
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $79 556 450 $0 $0 $3 943 550 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $
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RFA - 2
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
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UFA - 1
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
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UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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-1 125 000 $-1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 550 000 $3 550 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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14 nov. 2023 à 18 h 13
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Take Klingberg and the 4th out + add TWO (2x) 3rds and you’re probably not too far off:

1st + Abruzzese + 3rd for Retention FOR Tanev 50% Ret.
Liljegren + 3rd for Retention FOR Zadorov 50% Ret.

I’d personally take Jarnkrok, Timmins or Niemela instead of a 3rd, but not all Flames Fans would and I also wouldn’t mind seeing Lajoie, Villeneuve and Bobby McMann join the Flames as well

If you want us to take Klingberg back though, we’ll need much more incentive to do that
14 nov. 2023 à 18 h 21
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Take Klingberg and the 4th out + add TWO (2x) 3rds and you’re probably not too far off:

1st + Abruzzese + 3rd for Retention FOR Tanev 50% Ret.
Liljegren + 3rd for Retention FOR Zadorov 50% Ret.

I’d personally take Jarnkrok, Timmins or Niemela instead of a 3rd, but not all Flames Fans would and I also wouldn’t mind seeing Lajoie, Villeneuve and Bobby McMann join the Flames as well

If you want us to take Klingberg back though, we’ll need much more incentive to do that


Leafs decline even this lol
14 nov. 2023 à 18 h 25
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Leafs decline even this lol

YOU would decline, because you think Liljegren = McDavid
14 nov. 2023 à 18 h 31
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Quoting: KingofRnR
YOU would decline, because you think Liljegren = McDavid


Nope he’s just not going anywhere he’s young and good no need to trade him unless it’s a massive overpayment
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14 nov. 2023 à 19 h 25
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Quoting: Kinger25
Nope he’s just not going anywhere he’s young and good no need to trade him unless it’s a massive overpayment


Quoting: KingofRnR
YOU would decline, because you think Liljegren = McDavid


Zadorov is like a 5th defenceman, similar to Luke Schenn. He’s younger and has a bit of an offensive touch so he worth abit more but Schenn only got a 3rd so maybe abit more then that plus something for retaining
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14 nov. 2023 à 19 h 31
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Quoting: Bennecon
Zadorov is like a 5th defenceman, similar to Luke Schenn. He’s younger and has a bit of an offensive touch so he worth abit more but Schenn only got a 3rd so maybe abit more then that plus something for retaining

Comparing Zadorov to Schenn is not a good idea or fair

Sure, Schenn is Big & Mean, but he’s old, slow and provides no offence. He’s what is considered a Pylon

Zadorov is something between MTL’s Ben Chiarot and Zdeno Chara. He can do it all and can easily be a 2LD/Top-4 D-Man
14 nov. 2023 à 19 h 37
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Comparing Zadorov to Schenn is not a good idea

Sure, Schenn is Big and Mean, but he’s old, slow and provides no offence. He’s what is considered a Pylon

Zadorov is something between MTL’s Ben Chiarot and Zdeno Chara. He can do it all


Comparing him to chara is crazy. Chara was on of the leagues best defencemen.

Zadorov plays about 18 minutes a night and isn’t really the best defender. Where as Schenn is a better defender.

Obviously u haven’t seen Schenn play in the last 2 years cause I would rather have Schenn than zadorov.

It’s also a pretty big negative that ur 3rd pair defender make almost 4 mil so he has to be retained to fit anywhere.

No chance he’s even worth a first.

Only way flames get that is
Zadorov 50% retained plus a 3rd

For

A late first.

Even that is too much
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14 nov. 2023 à 19 h 50
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Quoting: Bennecon
Comparing him to chara is crazy. Chara was on of the leagues best defencemen.

Zadorov plays about 18 minutes a night and isn’t really the best defender. Where as Schenn is a better defender.

Obviously u haven’t seen Schenn play in the last 2 years cause I would rather have Schenn than zadorov.

It’s also a pretty big negative that ur 3rd pair defender make almost 4 mil so he has to be retained to fit anywhere.

No chance he’s even worth a first.

Only way flames get that is
Zadorov 50% retained plus a 3rd

For

A late first.

Even that is too much

You do you man, I’ll take Zadorov who is Underrated Defensively, but is Much Bigger and can Skate and Puck Handle from end line to end line like a Forward all day, every day

No, he’s not near as good Defensively as Chara, but if he was given 20-22+ minutes a night and some PP Time, which is what he wants and why he’s frustrated, he would easily put up 40-50 Points in a Season. He’s seriously improved since joining the Flames and continues to get better. He does make Defensive Fumbles and Mistakes though, yes

You might be the only person who’d want Schenn over Zadorov; certainly no GM would take Schenn over Zadorov given the choice between the two

Schenn’s an AHL’er at this point man. He only did well playing with Quinn Hughes. He sucked for TOR and played 1 Game for NSH this season, so that’s proof right there. He Sucks and again, is basically just a Big Nasty Goon of a Pylon at this point in his career

With Retention, Zadorov will bring a 1st, without, maybe not. There’s a ton of Demand for Big-Z around the League. He’s very desirable and GM’s and Players alike salivate over having a Guy like Zadorov on their Team, especially when he’s good in all 3 Zones, not just standing in Front of the Net or on the PK like your Boy Schenn is only good for
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14 nov. 2023 à 19 h 52
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Take Klingberg and the 4th out + add TWO (2x) 3rds and you’re probably not too far off:

1st + Abruzzese + 3rd for Retention FOR Tanev 50% Ret.
Liljegren + 3rd for Retention FOR Zadorov 50% Ret.

I’d personally take Jarnkrok, Timmins or Niemela instead of a 3rd, but not all Flames Fans would and I also wouldn’t mind seeing Lajoie, Villeneuve and Bobby McMann join the Flames as well

If you want us to take Klingberg back though, we’ll need much more incentive to do that


Might be because I’m a biased leaf fan but

To Calgary:
Lilijgren
+ between a 5th, 6th or 7th
To Toronto
Zedorov half retained.

I don’t want to be one of the Lilijgren glazers on here but I think he himself is worth essentially the same as Zedorov (full salary) if not more
14 nov. 2023 à 20 h 31
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Quoting: Mikael_Smith
Might be because I’m a biased leaf fan but

To Calgary:
Lilijgren
+ between a 5th, 6th or 7th
To Toronto
Zedorov half retained.

I don’t want to be one of the Lilijgren glazers on here but I think he himself is worth essentially the same as Zedorov (full salary) if not more

I mean that’s a fair valuation and certainly not bad, but it depends on whether CGY is high on Liljegren and what we get offered from the other multiple Teams interested in his services….

We’re obviously going to take the best offer and, just for the record, I’m hoping things get resolved, Dan Nulstein gets Fired and Zadorov stays. I’d rather Big-Z than Liljegren plus a late Pick tbh

Now if it were Liljegren + a Pick for Tanev and Liljegren was returning soon and/or another player like Villeneuve was thrown in, that’d be a different story. I’d do that because it helps provide CGY with their Tanev Replacement. I’d much rather have Liljegren than a TOR-1st Round Pick, but My Boy @Kinger25 wouldn’t 😘
 
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