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Créé par: Devsfan25

Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey

Date de création initiale: 11 nov. 2023

Publié: 11 nov. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

COL trade:
I think a Nosek for Tatar swap makes a lot of sense for both sides. Nosek is the perfect for 4C for COL while Tatar comes back to NJ to reunite arguably the Devils best line of 22-23

CGY trade:
The Devils desperately need a player like Chris Tanev and I think he'd slide in nicely either next to Bahl as a shutdown pair or a partner for Luke to hop up into the play. CGY takes back Smith for cap purposes and a replacement for Tanev for the remainder of 23-24. They also get a quality prospect in Clarke who can step right into the lineup in addition to a 2nd round pick

Transactions

NJD

Tatar, Tomas

COL

Nosek, Tomas
Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (COL)

NJD

Tanev, Christopher (2 250 000 $ retained)

CGY

Clarke, Graeme
Smith, Brendan
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)

Rachats de contrats

Cory Schneider: 2 000 000 $
Janne Kuokkanen: 325 000 $

Frais appliqués

Ilya Kovalchuk: 250 000 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	77 761 667 $	422 500 $	2 232 500 $	5 738 333 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Toffoli, Tyler 2 125 000 $2 125 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Hughes, Jack 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C UFA - 7	Meier, Timo 8 800 000 $8 800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8
Tatar, Tomas 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Hischier, Nico 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ C UFA - 4	Mercer, Dawson 894 167 $894 167 $ (400 000 $$400K) AD, C RFA - 1
Palat, Ondrej 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 4	Haula, Erik 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ C, AG NTC UFA - 3	Bratt, Jesper 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 8
Lazar, Curtis 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD, C UFA - 2	McLeod, Michael 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ C RFA - 1	Bastian, Nathan 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Siegenthaler, Jonas 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ DG UFA - 5	Hamilton, Dougie 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 5	Vanecek, Vitek 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ G UFA - 2
Hughes, Luke 925 000 $925 000 $ (925 000 $$925K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Marino, John 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Schmid, Akira 850 833 $850 833 $ (57 500 $$58K) G RFA - 1
Bahl, Kevin 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ DG RFA - 2	Tanev, Christopher -1 125 000 $-1 125 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Tierney, Chris 775 000 $775 000 $ C UFA - 1
Holtz, Alexander 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 2
Miller, Colin 1 850 000 $1 850 000 $ DD UFA - 1

11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 16

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CGY declines. You're asking us to retain half of Tanev and all we're getting is a late 2nd, a 7D, and a meh young forward

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11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 18

Devsfan25

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Quoting: FlameFlameFruit

CGY declines. You're asking us to retain half of Tanev and all we're getting is a late 2nd, a 7D, and a meh young forward

I mean he is just a rental. For someone whose known for more a shutdown role, no one is gonna give up for a 1st. All teams interested will have later picks obviously as well. If someone actually gave up a 1st, they can have em. Dreger just reported TOR, VAN, NJ interested in Zadorov fyi

11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 21

FlameFlameFruit

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Quoting: Devsfan25

You're forgetting that GM's love to bend over backwards for physical shutdown D, not to mention Tanev has had elite shutdown metrics the last 3 years. You want us to retain but you're not offering anything of significant value.

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11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 26

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I'd rather go with Zadorov than Tanev from CGY if Tanev is as expensive as people think he'll be

11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 26

Devsfan25

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Quoting: FlameFlameFruit

Yeah well if I were a betting man, I'd say you don't fetch a 1st for either Zadorov or Tanev. Fitzy already fleeced Conroy once. Hoping he goes for round 2

11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 26

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Quoting: pretzelcoatl

I'd rather go with Zadorov than Tanev from CGY if Tanev is as expensive as people think he'll be

We don't really have an idea of what either guy is gonna go for

11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 27

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Quoting: Devsfan25

Yeah well if I were a betting man, I'd say you don't fetch a 1st for either Zadorov or Tanev. Fitzy already fleeced Conroy once. Hoping he goes for round 2

This is less than a rental Chiarot got

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11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 31

Devsfan25

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Quoting: FlameFlameFruit

This is less than a rental Chiarot got

Well that was a horrible trade to begin with. Anyone that thought Chiarot was worth a 1st at any point in his career wasn't watching close enough. Florida even added a low level prospect and a 4th. Terrible!

11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 32

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I doubt Colorado goes for that. Tatar has more value to them as a fill in for the top 6 if required than Nosek does as a 4C, they have plenty of guys who can fill that role. The only way I could really see it being a possibility is if Landy is back (unlikely) or they've added someone else like Kane (outside bet) for a cup run. Then it might make sense.

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11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 45

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Leafs prob outbid that Tanev trade

11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 46

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Quoting: Leafsfan7788

Leafs prob outbid that Tanev trade

Very possible, but we'll see who they end up targeting between Zadorov and Tanev. Likely wouldn't go for both

11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 49

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Quoting: Leafsfan7788

Leafs prob outbid that Tanev trade

Quoting: Devsfan25

Very possible, but we'll see who they end up targeting between Zadorov and Tanev. Likely wouldn't go for both

And probably won't win the bidding war for either one.

11 nov. 2023 à 13 h 51

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Quoting: MoxNix

And probably won't win the bidding war for either one.

Yeah remember Flames fans thought you guys were getting prospects and a 1st round pick for Toffoli. Good times!

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11 nov. 2023 à 14 h 5

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Quoting: Devsfan25

Yeah remember Flames fans thought you guys were getting prospects and a 1st round pick for Toffoli. Good times!

Remember that was a quick preseason deal to free up some cap space not a deadline rental trade. At the trade deadline with retention he would have fetched a late 1st + a B prospect or 2nd/3rd.

11 nov. 2023 à 14 h 16

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Love seeing devils fans in shambles. Who knew that the defense and goalies wouldn’t be good

11 nov. 2023 à 14 h 33

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I like the other Devils fan guy more

11 nov. 2023 à 14 h 38

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Quoting: Rags21

Love seeing devils fans in shambles. Who knew that the defense and goalies wouldn’t be good

Talk to me at the end of the year buddy. You guys started last year 9-10-1 and had every fan flipping out saying you were gonna miss the playoffs and that was with a full roster. We're down 2 top 30 players in the NHL(Jack top 10 and Nico top 30). Both will likely be back in 2-2.5 weeks; we'll address our needs at the deadline

11 nov. 2023 à 14 h 44

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Quoting: Devsfan25

Ok and? The rangers are winning without chytil, fox, Igor and quick lol

Yea because Gallant is an awful coach. Weird how a good team plays better with a good coach

11 nov. 2023 à 14 h 53

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Quoting: Rags21

Ok and? The rangers are winning without chytil, fox, Igor and quick lol

Yea because Gallant is an awful coach. Weird how a good team plays better with a good coach

It's different because the losses to your lineup are much more balanced. Losing Hughes and Hischier is like the Rangers losing Panarin and Zibanejad at the same time. If we had lost say Hamilton, Mercer, and Vanecek(our #1D, 2/3C, and starter) that'd be more comparable. It comes down to possession time for the Devils rn. The Devils D looks atrocious because they're constantly in their own zone. When Jack and Nico are playing, they're in the o zone much more. Nico is also a top 5 defensive forward in the NHL

11 nov. 2023 à 14 h 56

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Quoting: Devsfan25

You still have Mercer, Meier, Hamilton, highly touted Hughes brother, toffoli, etc. Guys should step up

NYR have old washed Bonino as their 3C, Gus doing his best Adam Fox and Zac Jones tiny defenseman trying to play defense

11 nov. 2023 à 15 h 1

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Quoting: Rags21

Lose Zibanejed and Trocheck down the middle for the next 10 games and see how well Panarin, Kreider, Laf, etc play. I'm not making excuses, but it's a lot harder to generate when those 2 guys are out. All the guys you listed are good players and some have stepped up(Meier, McLeod, Toffoli) while others have not(Bratt, Haula, Palat) but it's a lot different game when you're playing with Mercer or Haula as opposed to Jack and Nico

11 nov. 2023 à 15 h 19

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Quoting: Devsfan25

Mika hasn’t done anything this year especially at 5v5 and trocheck was mainly playing defense against top lines until chytil got hurt. But like I said players have to step up when needed

Panarin is literally carrying Laffy and trocheck l, cuylle stepped up and Gus stepped up for Fox on the powerplay

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