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Did not work out

Créé par: vbolshakov
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 27 oct. 2023
Publié: 27 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Hypothetical situation - all happens at once:
- Pens are too old to get above 10th place in the conference
- Guentzel does not want to sign with Pens and wants to win for real
- Karlsson and Letang do not play well together
- Sullivan is finally fired
- Sid agreed to do a small "rebuilding" that the team should get faster and yonger
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Goodrow, Barclay
  2. Lafrenière, Alexis
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Guentzel, Jake (3 000 000 $ retained)
2.
PIT
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
3.
PIT
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Knies, Matthew
  3. Liljegren, Timothy
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Karlsson, Erik (3 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Zohorna, Radim
4.
5.
PIT
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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Logo de TOR
Logo de VAN
Logo de PIT
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Logo de PIT
Logo de SEA
Logo de CAR
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de NYR
2025
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
2026
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de SJS
Logo de PIT
Logo de NYR
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $79 032 501 $0 $907 500 $4 467 499 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 325 000 $2 325 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 375 000 $5 375 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
886 667 $886 667 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
G
RFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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27 oct. 2023 à 12 h 47
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Leafs don’t do that
27 oct. 2023 à 12 h 49
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Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: JesikaMorris
Leafs don’t do that


What do you think works for them? They need EK67
27 oct. 2023 à 12 h 51
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NYR finally have some chemistry with Panarin, in Laffy and Fil. So for me it is a no thanks.
27 oct. 2023 à 12 h 51
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Canucks pass
remowilliams a aimé ceci.
27 oct. 2023 à 12 h 55
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Rangers laugh and pass
27 oct. 2023 à 13 h 0
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Quoting: vbolshakov
What do you think works for them? They need EK67


Leafs need EK like they need a hole in the head, PIT didnt even give that up to get him, why are the leafs paying more. also you are taking 2 D men that play on the right side and a top prospect and a first, it just doesnt make sense for the Leafs at all.
27 oct. 2023 à 13 h 8
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Quoting: vbolshakov
What do you think works for them? They need EK67


theyre good thanks
27 oct. 2023 à 13 h 9
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wouldnt trade matthews knies for karlsson 1 for 1
27 oct. 2023 à 13 h 52
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PDG over PDO
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Vancouver passes easily
27 oct. 2023 à 14 h 4
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Mods have power egos
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Rangers can't resign guentzel
27 oct. 2023 à 14 h 10
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Weird timing coming off our best win in ages but even if this experiment falls apart we won’t be trading Jake for that kind of return as a rental, EK65 is ours to keep, and giving up on DOC for a lousy 4th is a bad idea.
27 oct. 2023 à 14 h 11
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Rangers can't resign guentzel


1 I sincerely doubt we’d be looking to send him to a rival even as a rental

2 I don’t see anyone paying that for a rental
27 oct. 2023 à 14 h 29
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Does Dubas got some really bad s*** on Treliving or Shanahan or maybe know the Jedi mind trick? That's as bout the only way I see that Toronto trafe
27 oct. 2023 à 14 h 46
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That's at the Canucks hang up the phone level off. You're probably hoping for a first with taking cap back only for this year to make it work. So probably like Myres retained 2m and 2024 1st for Pettersson or Myres (no retention) plus 1st for Pettersson and Acciari.

Acciari is a negative to neutral value with that term.
27 oct. 2023 à 15 h 54
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none of this happens lol or even makes much sense...

They also would not trade Jake to someone like the rags.
28 oct. 2023 à 0 h 3
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Quoting: pens1991
none of this happens lol or even makes much sense...

They also would not trade Jake to someone like the rags.


We simply wouldn't want him to begin with. Lafreniere alone > Guentzel. Let alone Goodrow and multiple picks including a first rounder
30 oct. 2023 à 11 h 55
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Quoting: Coachchippy
We simply wouldn't want him to begin with. Lafreniere alone > Guentzel. Let alone Goodrow and multiple picks including a first rounder


Lafreniere is not better than Guentzel... what are you on lol not even close. He's been a huge let down for a first overall and all your fans are well aware. Laf is a .23 goal per game player, Jake is .43 goal per game player.

Enjoy your awful take.
30 oct. 2023 à 18 h 27
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Quoting: pens1991
Lafreniere is not better than Guentzel... what are you on lol not even close. He's been a huge let down for a first overall and all your fans are well aware. Laf is a .23 goal per game player, Jake is .43 goal per game player.

Enjoy your awful take.


Lafreniere is almost a decade younger than Guentzel. He has a way higher upside than Guentzel ever had. And he's not a let-down at all. Anyone who says that, Ranger fan or otherwise, literally must not watch the games. It's no coincidence that he's been one of our best forwards this year and started to go off the SECOND he received top 6 minutes. We'll see who has a better career when all is said and done. Lafreniere looks fantastic. Thus why this trade is trying to get him to the Penguins.
 
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