Let's go through some simple math to help you

If Jack Hughes is the puck carrier/making passes about 60% of the time offensively, and when he's on the ice the devils control play 60% of the time, that means Jack Hughes has an opportunity to have a giveaway 36% of the time.

That leaves 40% of the time for the other team to have the puck, and of that time, the guy jack hughes is responsible for is the puck carrier/making passes about 25% of the time. That gives jack hughes an opportunity to force a takeaway 10% of the time.

These numbers are just estimates. But when you dominate possession like Jack Hughes does, there's simply so much more opportunity for turnovers to occur than with anyone else. In all honesty the fact that Hughes doesn't lead the league in giveaways by a MASSIVE margin is a testament to how elite he is

There is nothing that says he's high in puck possession and has it 60% of the time he's on the ice (nobody would be even close the 40% at 5v5) which gives him plenty of time to recover those giveaways or get a takeaway as the play develops... So you numbers are completely wrong and your estimation is also wrong...

And just to add to Marner, Marner was also the takeaway king last year... So he'd make up for those giveaways... Hughes doesn't... So no, Hughes isn't better than Matthews defensively and not close, you change the subject any time stats come into play... And refuse to cite your sources

You do realize the Avs have MacKinnon. For the Avs I take Makar over any player in the NHL including McDavid.

Takeaways and giveaways are meaningless stats that I've explained countless times are influenced by home statkeepers and puck possesion.

In terms of the stats I mentioned, they come from topdownhockey

More time with puck=more turnovers
less time with other team having puck= less takeaways

This isn't a complicated concept.

Jack Hughes ranks at or near the top of the league in zone exits, zone entries, and end to end rushes. This means he is carrying the puck through high traffic areas more than anyone else

TBH, I'd rather have Makinnon over McDavid... So not really shocked that you said Makar over McDavid...

Not hard to do the math either, Hughes has so many entries and exits bc that's how the Devils play... It's all transition games for them, see end to end rushes stat... Doing them multiple times doesn't make you this guy that always has the puck

It's very simple, don't turn the puck over... Your so great at handling the puck, pass it off if you need to...

As for the lack of takeaways, bc you play such a transition styled game, there should be plenty of times to recover the puck... If you also look at the stats, you can see that Hughes is weak at puck battles (a very important defensive element BTW)

And bc the Devils play a transition styled game, it's a lot easier to exit and enter the zone on a 2 on 1 or a 3 on 2 all the time

Someone doesn't watch the devils. The devils play a game heavily predicated on stretch passes. These stretch passes can often lead to turnovers, but have very little actual little negative impact.

A large portion of Jack hughes rushes come on 1 v 3s or 2v 4s, where the devils have slowed it down, gathered themselves, and Jack is entering into a loaded dzone with 4 defenders watching him, and his wingers along the boards. That's how teams try to play jack hughes.

So to summarize.

The devils entries with Jack on the ice consist of a lot stretch passes and defended rushes by Jack. Both of which lead to high numbers of low impact turnovers.

Passes also lead to turnovers. The devils top lines don't really dump and chase, which isn't counted as a turnover even tho it gives the puck away, but provides a large opportunity for a takeaway. Once again, as I've mentioned so many times. Takeaways and giveaways are a function of home scorekeepers, are a poorly tracked and inconsistently measured, very low impact stat that is 90% based on play style.

If you don't actually watch devils hockey, don't understand nuance at all, and have no understanding of any underlying metrics that's okay, but don't try and pretend you know what you're talking about

But meanwhile Jack Hughes leads the league in points now (with exclusively primary points) after being better than Matthews as well last year, and still remains just 22 years old and 5.2 million dollars cheaper with more term. You'd have to add a couple firsts to get the devils to even consider giving up Hughes for matthews

You definitely don't understand what transition game means then... bc stretch passes that lead to turnovers going to other way without defensive posture on either side is what that means lol... And it nipped you in the butt vs Carolina

And your forgetting that there are other players in NJD too?

And I thought you said Hughes was better at defence than Matthews? Someone cheating isn't very good at defence

Matthews was on the same level as Jack last year and played on 1 wrist...

Congrats on having a great 4 games though

LOL, you don't have an understanding and don't use sources to try to flip things around

Nice excuse for matthews. Jack's also a step ahead of where Matthews was at this age too. and it's the last82 games +playoffs that Hughes was better than matthews actually

Poor goaltending and the dmen struggling with carolina's forecheck cost NJD vs Carolina. (Jack Hughes btw isn't the one who disappeared in the semi's, that was matthews)

I was talking about takeaways. Which as I've said many, many times have very little to do with defense.

There are other players in NJD. DOn't know what the point you're making is

no, but stopping the opposing team from generating quality chances is THE most important part of defense. And hughes was better at it than matthews last year.

Hughes was worse than Matthews in the playoffs this year and when Matthews was his age... So keep it up! And: https://theathletic.com/4309410/2023/03/15/auston-matthews-injury-maple-leafs-2/

Matthews literally led RD 2 in shots and shot attempts, that's not disappearing, that's running into Sergei brobrovsy

It does, that's puck recoveries... Most come un the D zone...

It's not always a 1v3... It's typically the other way around bc the wingers are also blowing the zone

No, he wasn't... If you want to go by GA, Hughes was a +10 with 99 points, Matthews was a +31 with 87 points... Matthews was better in any aspect you want