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Realistic Lafreniere

Créé par: TMLBRIAN
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 5 oct. 2023
Publié: 5 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This only happens if Lafreniere has fallen out of favour with the Rangers.
They would get a depth centre and depth winger, 2024 2nd and 2025 top 10 protected pick.

Montreal trades 2 depth pieces and 2 picks and take a flyer on a former 1st overall pick, who is also a hometown kid.

Doesn't mean he will work out, but this would be a worth while risk in my mind.

New York only does this if they really want to move on from Lafreniere. It will also allow them a little more flexibility if they want to re-sign Kane.

Thoughts from both teams?
Transactions
NYR
  1. Evans, Jake
  2. Ylönen, Jesse
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
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top 10 protected
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $73 315 416 $1 170 000 $3 935 000 $10 184 584 $
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
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2 325 000 $2 325 000 $
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
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1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
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812 500 $812 500 $
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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828 333 $828 333 $
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950 000 $950 000 $
DD
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766 667 $766 667 $
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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5 oct. 2023 à 15 h 32
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So not worth
5 oct. 2023 à 15 h 33
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Quoting: DustinBrown1989
So not worth


For who?
5 oct. 2023 à 15 h 34
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Replace Evans with Farrell or ELC player with potential, then maybe
5 oct. 2023 à 15 h 34
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For who?


Canadians
5 oct. 2023 à 15 h 35
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Canadians


I think this would be worth the gamble for them. Montreal has a crazy amount of picks and good young prospects. They make this trade, since it has very high upside and because Laffy fits their core age group but if it doesn't work out, it doesn't hurt them much.
5 oct. 2023 à 15 h 35
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That would be an overpay from the habs, Laf is underperforming remove the 1st round pick then I do it.
5 oct. 2023 à 15 h 36
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I doubt Evans holds much value for New York. Quick hasn’t been very good — maybe add a goalie? I’m not that familiar with either team’s assets.
5 oct. 2023 à 15 h 37
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Quoting: TheFastAndTheFleuryous
I doubt Evans holds much value for New York.


Evans and Ylonen don't hold much value to anyone. They would hold a little but not crazy amounts. New York can use a bit of depth and Evans and Ylonen would help out in that regard. They are both serviceable pieces.

The 1st and the 2nd are the brunt of the value in this.
5 oct. 2023 à 15 h 39
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That would be an overpay from the habs, Laf is underperforming remove the 1st round pick then I do it.


I don't think it is an overpay. He would have slightly more value than Newhook based on age and based on performance so far.

This is similar to the Newhook return but it is slightly better for New York than what Colorado got.
5 oct. 2023 à 16 h 8
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I think this would be worth the gamble for them. Montreal has a crazy amount of picks and good young prospects. They make this trade, since it has very high upside and because Laffy fits their core age group but if it doesn't work out, it doesn't hurt them much.


Yeah except they never trade their own first for him
5 oct. 2023 à 16 h 29
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Yeah except they never trade their own first for him


it's top 10 protected and it's next years pick.
5 oct. 2023 à 16 h 40
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it's top 10 protected and it's next years pick.


So when it is in the top ten and they have to send next years without protection and that one’s in the top ten
5 oct. 2023 à 16 h 42
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Start with Dach trade price, then add from there.
5 oct. 2023 à 16 h 43
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So when it is in the top ten and they have to send next years without protection and that one’s in the top ten


The odds that Montreal are a terrible team in 2026 are low.

IF that happens, they just take one on the chin. Part of the way of things sometimes.
5 oct. 2023 à 16 h 44
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The odds that Montreal are a terrible team in 2026 are low.

IF that happens, they just take one on the chin. Part of the way of things sometimes.


I still don’t think they do this maybe if they traded Calgary's first then it makes sense
5 oct. 2023 à 17 h 5
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If Lafreniere falls out of favour after more than 3 seasons, he's not going to get that kind of return.

Quoting: TMLBRIAN
The odds that Montreal are a terrible team in 2026 are low.

IF that happens, they just take one on the chin. Part of the way of things sometimes.


I'm not sure what the timetable is here though. When in the hypothetical scenario is Lafreniere falling out of favour? Because if its mid-season or deadline, then it doesn't really match the general range of what Montreal has paid in a similar situation (Dach, Newhook). Montreal may not even want Lafreniere at that point.

Either way, Montreal wouldn't just have the pick top-10 protected. If they were to make the trade a trade using the 2025 pick it would the higher of the there's or the pick coming from Calgary unless one or both is top-10/12/whatever, at which point it would be the lower of them.
 
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