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Blockbuster with every team part 17

Créé par: noobmaster69
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 27 sept. 2023
Publié: 29 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Marino, John
  2. Vanecek, Vitek (1 700 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. Samsonov, Ilya
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Pinto, Shane [Droits de RFA]
OTT
  1. Kokkonen, Mikko
  2. Tverberg, Ryan
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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Logo de OTT
2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2083 500 000 $83 247 283 $0 $0 $252 717 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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29 sept. 2023 à 9 h 2
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Ottawa does this why?
29 sept. 2023 à 9 h 16
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No

Maybe... But I don't want to pay that much for a 4C
29 sept. 2023 à 9 h 30
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This one is actually a really difficult decision for the Devils. I think the retention has to be off the table though, and Robertson is not of interest at all since we don't have a roster spot for him
29 sept. 2023 à 10 h 34
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
This one is actually a really difficult decision for the Devils. I think the retention has to be off the table though, and Robertson is not of interest at all since we don't have a roster spot for him


Not really difficult at all. There’s nothing we really need in that package at all. I’d rather have Marinos low aav than 1 year if Brodie (who makes more), a wing prospect who won’t make the team, a very late 1st and a VV replacement that doesn’t even improve the position.. let alone we have to retain on VV and give up a 2nd. Devils easily decline.
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29 sept. 2023 à 18 h 49
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Quoting: KDev
Not really difficult at all. There’s nothing we really need in that package at all. I’d rather have Marinos low aav than 1 year if Brodie (who makes more), a wing prospect who won’t make the team, a very late 1st and a VV replacement that doesn’t even improve the position.. let alone we have to retain on VV and give up a 2nd. Devils easily decline.


I disagree with parts of your assessment. While I agree that the trade as-is isn't worth it, I think Samsonov is unquestionably an upgrade, and Brodie for Marino might be an okay sacrifice given how Nemec looks. I would counter with something like this:

To TOR:
Marino
Vanecek (third party retains)
2024 3rd

To NJD:
Brodie
Samsonov
2024 1st
30 sept. 2023 à 10 h 49
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So DeBrincat and Chychrun didn't convince Ottawa to trade Pinto but this... would?

Quoting: Leafsfan98
No

Maybe... But I don't want to pay that much for a 4C

Are you even hiding the fact that you're a TROLL? lol
1 oct. 2023 à 11 h 31
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Quoting: Xspyrit

Are you even hiding the fact that you're a TROLL? lol


Please explain to me how Pinto is better than: Matthews, Nylander or JT please? I dare you... Because that's our current centre core. So before you start calling me a troll, start thinking first...

And that's not even including whether Keefe would like his 4C to take the DZone draws (which Kampf would be doing over Pinto)... So again, keep trolling
1 oct. 2023 à 13 h 8
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Please explain to me how Pinto is better than: Matthews, Nylander or JT please? I dare you... Because that's our current centre core. So before you start calling me a troll, start thinking first...

And that's not even including whether Keefe would like his 4C to take the DZone draws (which Kampf would be doing over Pinto)... So again, keep trolling

If a team has 3 McDavids, would that make Matthews a 4C?

If you can't figure it out vs what you said... then I have no idea what to tell you

The way we speak/write things is important and the message can end up very different depending on how you phrase it
2 oct. 2023 à 8 h 48
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Quoting: Xspyrit
If a team has 3 McDavids, would that make Matthews a 4C?

If you can't figure it out vs what you said... then I have no idea what to tell you

The way we speak/write things is important and the message can end up very different depending on how you phrase it


The thing is; would you trade a haul for Matthews if you already have 3 McDavids? No, that's a waste of assets... There's no need for that... Especially when you have other positions that need to be filled...

Pinto serves no interest to Toronto, and especially not as an overpayment...
2 oct. 2023 à 10 h 24
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
The thing is; would you trade a haul for Matthews if you already have 3 McDavids? No, that's a waste of assets... There's no need for that... Especially when you have other positions that need to be filled...

Pinto serves no interest to Toronto, and especially not as an overpayment...

This is better spoken, yes. Disagree with overpayment (from an Ott's perspective not at all) but it is actually an intelligible argument

"But I don't want to pay that much for a 4C" was NOT. Glad you understood
2 oct. 2023 à 11 h 27
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Quoting: Xspyrit
This is better spoken, yes. Disagree with overpayment (from an Ott's perspective not at all) but it is actually an intelligible argument

"But I don't want to pay that much for a 4C" was NOT. Glad you understood


That's what Pinto would have played if he was acquired by TO, to them, Pinto is a 4C which is why I said that lol... That much for someone who would be their 4C is considered an overpayment
2 oct. 2023 à 11 h 28
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
I disagree with parts of your assessment. While I agree that the trade as-is isn't worth it, I think Samsonov is unquestionably an upgrade, and Brodie for Marino might be an okay sacrifice given how Nemec looks. I would counter with something like this:

To TOR:
Marino
Vanecek (third party retains)
2024 3rd

To NJD:
Brodie
Samsonov
2024 1st


Toronto would tell you to kick rocks...
3 oct. 2023 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
That's what Pinto would have played if he was acquired by TO, to them, Pinto is a 4C which is why I said that lol... That much for someone who would be their 4C is considered an overpayment

He's not a 4C because the world doesn't revolve around Toronto lol

It's like me saying I don't want Tavares, he's a 3C

This is not how your education system should teach you how to speak...
4 oct. 2023 à 8 h 20
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Quoting: Xspyrit
He's not a 4C because the world doesn't revolve around Toronto lol

It's like me saying I don't want Tavares, he's a 3C

This is not how your education system should teach you how to speak...


In this trade, it 100% does... Toronto would have been the one acquiring Pinto

Tavares is better than Norris BTW...

And stop trying to degrade me based on my education system... Just because you aren't very smart, doesn't mean you have to bring others down with you
4 oct. 2023 à 16 h 52
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In this trade, it 100% does... Toronto would have been the one acquiring Pinto

Tavares is better than Norris BTW...

First, this trade proposal was made by a Leafs fan...

Even then, you still have to use precise langage

Quoting: Leafsfan98
And stop trying to degrade me based on my education system... Just because you aren't very smart, doesn't mean you have to bring others down with you

I can also certify that there's more intelligence in my left nut than your whole body. Maybe if you'd stop proving it every time you quote me...
4 oct. 2023 à 17 h 10
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Quoting: Xspyrit
First, this trade proposal was made by a Leafs fan...

Even then, you still have to use precise langage


And? So you are implying every stupid Sens fan trade makes sense for Ottawa?

Even then, I've never heard of "langage" in English, seulement en francais.

Quoting: Xspyrit
I can also certify that there's more intelligence in my left nut than your whole body. Maybe if you'd stop proving it every time you quote me...


Clearly, you have not demonstrated said intelligence and have only demonstrated immaturity and stupidity
 
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