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Cap Team - no Superstars

Créé par: Beargold
Équipe: 2023-24 Équipe personnalisée
Date de création initiale: 29 août 2023
Publié: 29 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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No using the players listed by NHL.com as being in the top 20 of their positions (top 10 for goalies). Must be under the cap.

No Wingers from here: https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-current-players-ranked-top-20-wings/c-345560164?tid=290583266

No Centres from here: https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-current-players-ranked-top-20-centers/c-345506390?tid=290583266

No Defencemen from here: https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-current-players-ranked-top-20-defensemen/c-345580664?tid=290583266

No Goalies from here: https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-current-players-ranked-top-10-goalies/c-345652978?tid=290583266

3 ELCs MAX. (Power, Beniers, Seider)

Used to have Cirelli, but opted for Giroux / C. Brown instead to provide that defensive/responsible presence. Have Wheeler as a veteran presence who can slot higher in the line-up in case of an injury or if something isn't clicking. Laughton and Kampf on the 4th line helps provide good defensive coverage, with Wheeler providing a scoring threat as well. Originally had Toffoli and D. Ryan (as a scratch), but opted for Bertuzzi to make sure this team still had a bit of a bite.

I am a Senators fan, but the players from them I picked are still good. I originally had Joseph over Laughton, and still stand by that decision, but switched them to avoid an overwhelming bias.
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2083 500 000 $82 498 167 $0 $8 075 000 $1 001 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 225 000 $$3M)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
897 500 $897 500 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
800 000 $800 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
766 667 $766 667 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1

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29 août 2023 à 13 h 6
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Replace Sanderson with Power or Seider, Giroux with Domi and then use the remaining cap space to upgrade Lindell to Rielly and Larsson to Lindholm and replace Chychrun with Pesce... Then, replace PLD with Suzuki and replace Hart with Swayman
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29 août 2023 à 13 h 9
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Replace Sanderson with Power or Seider


Agreed. Did that, just need to wait for it to update.
29 août 2023 à 13 h 10
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Replace Sanderson with Power or Seider


Seider EASILY. Power and Sanderson are closer then most people think. Laughton is also the correct choice. Only finishing -9 on that brutal philly team and putting up 50 points is good for a fourth line player
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29 août 2023 à 13 h 13
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Why is Sanderson a foward here?
29 août 2023 à 13 h 14
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Why is Sanderson a foward here?


Also Thompson isn't on a ELC
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29 août 2023 à 13 h 16
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Why is Sanderson a foward here?


Eff. Tried deleting him, but must have accidently dropped him there. Thanks for catching that.
29 août 2023 à 13 h 18
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Quoting: PeterGriffin
Seider EASILY. Power and Sanderson are closer then most people think. Laughton is also the correct choice. Only finishing -9 on that brutal philly team and putting up 50 points is good for a fourth line player


Quoting: Gmonwy
Also Thompson isn't on a ELC


With Thompson not on an ELC, I can now have both Power and Seider!

I agree Sanderson and Power are very close; I think it gets muddled since Sanderson was stuck with a defensive albatross in OTT whereas Power was a highly touted 1st OVR pick. Plus Power's name is rad.
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29 août 2023 à 13 h 19
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I'm biased but Hertl > Horvat & PLD
29 août 2023 à 13 h 26
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I'm biased but Hertl > Horvat & PLD


Horvat = 79GP, 38G, 32A, 70PTS, -1 +/-
PLD = 73 GP, 27G, 36A, 63PTS, +5 +/-
Hertl = 79GP, 22G, 41A, 63PTS, -36 +/-

Considering SJS sucked, I'd say they're all pretty comparable and if Hertl had better wingers he could be far better. Splitting hairs and since I don't really watch USA teams I'm not sure about Hertl, but I like Horvat's two-way play and PLD has a bit of a physical edge to him. Also, Horvat played most of the season with VAN, who were also trash.
29 août 2023 à 13 h 27
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I'm biased but Hertl > Horvat & PLD


Horvat maybe PLD no shot, 4 years younger and way better defender too. Same point totals, PLD in less games with more goals and a better +/-. Gotta be a biased take
29 août 2023 à 13 h 36
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Horvat = 79GP, 38G, 32A, 70PTS, -1 +/-
PLD = 73 GP, 27G, 36A, 63PTS, +5 +/-
Hertl = 79GP, 22G, 41A, 63PTS, -36 +/-

Considering SJS sucked, I'd say they're all pretty comparable and if Hertl had better wingers he could be far better. Splitting hairs and since I don't really watch USA teams I'm not sure about Hertl, but I like Horvat's two-way play and PLD has a bit of a physical edge to him. Also, Horvat played most of the season with VAN, who were also trash.


Horvat dropped off of a cliff when he got to the NYI, if he played all season in NYI the way he did he would've had 44 points in 82 games barely over 0.5 ppg. Taking either one over him
29 août 2023 à 13 h 51
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Quoting: PeterGriffin
Horvat dropped off of a cliff when he got to the NYI, if he played all season in NYI the way he did he would've had 44 points in 82 games barely over 0.5 ppg. Taking either one over him


Honestly, fair; if Horvat played that way all year we'd be having a way different conversation. However, I think part of the reason why he was succeeding in VAN rather than NYI was the fact that he wasn't carrying the entire load, so to speak, in VAN. He had more offensively-minded players (Petterson, Miller, Kuzmenko, Hughes) in VAN rather than NYI (Barzal was out a lot so he played with Lee, Engavall, Palmeri) and put up more points accordingly. With McCann and Bertuzzi, I think he'll thrive and we'd see the VAN Horvat, not the NYI Horvat. Plus, even if we do see that regression, I feel more comfortable with his two-way play at the moment, but, again, I don't watch SJS so if Hertl isn't as bad for that as his stats seem I can be convinced.
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Horvat maybe PLD no shot, 4 years younger and way better defender too. Same point totals, PLD in less games with more goals and a better +/-. Gotta be a biased take


I mean if you're building a team for the long-haul sure. But Hertl is a playoff beast. If you want to win now personally I'd go with him. Also if you watch Hertl you know he's incredible defensively and a fantastic penalty killer.

PLD could be elite imo but is really inconsistent and is either the most competitive player on the ice or the least.
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29 août 2023 à 13 h 56
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Honestly, fair; if Horvat played that way all year we'd be having a way different conversation. However, I think part of the reason why he was succeeding in VAN rather than NYI was the fact that he wasn't carrying the entire load, so to speak, in VAN. He had more offensively-minded players (Petterson, Miller, Kuzmenko, Hughes) in VAN rather than NYI (Barzal was out a lot so he played with Lee, Engavall, Palmeri) and put up more points accordingly. With McCann and Bertuzzi, I think he'll thrive and we'd see the VAN Horvat, not the NYI Horvat. Plus, even if we do see that regression, I feel more comfortable with his two-way play at the moment, but, again, I don't watch SJS so if Hertl isn't as bad for that as his stats seem I can be convinced.


NYI worse than Van they just have Sorokin to keep them in games
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I mean if you're building a team for the long-haul sure. But Hertl is a playoff beast. If you want to win now personally I'd go with him. Also if you watch Hertl you know he's incredible defensively and a fantastic penalty killer.

PLD could be elite imo but is really inconsistent and is either the most competitive player on the ice or the least.


Yeah consistency has been his biggest downfall, should see how he is now that he has a big deal and not leaving there so he should be better
29 août 2023 à 14 h 3
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I'm sorry... did you say you removed Cirelli to bring in Connor Brown because defensive presence????

I cannot possibly have read that correctly.
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I'm sorry... did you say you removed Cirelli to bring in Connor Brown because defensive presence????

I cannot possibly have read that correctly.


Yup, you did! ... Well, sort of.

I originally had Cirelli as 2LW, but dropped to 3LW to better fit the imagined role of the 2nd and 3rd lines (scoring for 2nd line, two-way play with an upside for 3rd line). Ultimately decided to go with Giroux / C. Brown as the wingers on that third line since they've both performed admirably with OTT in a similar type role. TBL players get bolstered by their stellar goaltending and defense, so I take their stats with a grain of salt. Plus, Giroux has better offensive numbers. With Giroux being seen as the replacement for Cirelli, I also opted for C. Brown and felt fine with those players to fill that line's role instead of Cirelli.
 
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