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Hellebuyck and some free agent signings

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Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 23 août 2023
Publié: 23 août 2023
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Just seeing if the Devils could fit Hellebuyck now without any retention involved, looks like they can with some minor to do league minimum signings and demoting Smith though Idk if they'd be willing to send Smith down or not.

The lines and D pairs are not important here, I assume Mercer might be ahead of Palat but just put him on line three here.

Signed Halak for a backup so Schmid can marinate in the AHL for the season.

If you don't like Benn for a vet dman there's a few others still without a contract, Edler could probably be a decent 3rd pair guy if needed.

Anyway let's not lose our minds, just seeing if Helle at full cost fits from a cap perspective for the Devils, to me it appears that he does.
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23 août 2023 à 18 h 4
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Easily outbidded
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Easily outbidded


By who?
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By who?


Anyone willing to offer more than an overpaid goalie and a borderline second for the most valuable player on the market
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Halak and Benn are entirely unnecessary and Holtz needs to be playing
23 août 2023 à 18 h 8
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Anyone willing to offer more than an overpaid goalie and a borderline second for the most valuable player on the market


So no one then.. lol

There's no market for Helle, maybe LA comes calling after 10 games in and they realize they have the worst goalie tandem in the league but other then them I can't see a fit.
23 août 2023 à 18 h 9
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Halak and Benn are entirely unnecessary and Holtz needs to be playing


Read the description, was jut signing cheap pieces to open up cap space to fit Hellebuyck.
23 août 2023 à 18 h 18
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By who?


Edmonton, LA, Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa would likely all beat this, even as a straight up rental which he is really unlikely going to be sold as this is not good
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23 août 2023 à 18 h 25
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Devils will not take the full 6m to rush for a damn cup. Yes lets get helly just to fight him on a deal not worth what he wants, just to make it harder to sign Hughes,Schmid,Mercer,Nemec in the next two years.
I dont trust old man Halak, he is 38 thats a red flag. Rather Desmith at 50%. Why do ppl like you panic and want the devils to be in cap hell and rush for a cup. i swear ppl forget how to be normal after a team makes playoffs for the first time in 5+ yrs. Cant wait for these same ppl to go MIA when Buffalo makes playoffs and refuse to panic trade a goalie to them cuz they think Levi is it LOL pathetic ppl
23 août 2023 à 18 h 57
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Devils will not take the full 6m to rush for a damn cup. Yes lets get helly just to fight him on a deal not worth what he wants, just to make it harder to sign Hughes,Schmid,Mercer,Nemec in the next two years.
I dont trust old man Halak, he is 38 thats a red flag. Rather Desmith at 50%. Why do ppl like you panic and want the devils to be in cap hell and rush for a cup. i swear ppl forget how to be normal after a team makes playoffs for the first time in 5+ yrs. Cant wait for these same ppl to go MIA when Buffalo makes playoffs and refuse to panic trade a goalie to them cuz they think Levi is it LOL pathetic ppl


Calm down and read the description, its simply to see if Helle would fit on the Devils roster now without retention.
23 août 2023 à 19 h 0
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Edmonton, LA, Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa would likely all beat this, even as a straight up rental which he is really unlikely going to be sold as this is not good


So LA is the only one of those teams that I can see calling for Helle, the rest are all settled with who they have or aren't really contending.

Was just seeing if Helle would fit on the Devils roster now without retention, wasn't about the return though I don't think the return will be all that good.
23 août 2023 à 19 h 17
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So LA is the only one of those teams that I can see calling for Helle, the rest are all settled with who they have or aren't really contending.

Was just seeing if Helle would fit on the Devils roster now without retention, wasn't about the return though I don't think the return will be all that good.


Jets would keep Helle for the rest of the year and let him walk before this imo
23 août 2023 à 19 h 19
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Jets would keep Helle for the rest of the year and let him walk before this imo


That'd be a really dumb move, getting a late 1st is better then getting nothing.
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Read the description, was jut signing cheap pieces to open up cap space to fit Hellebuyck.


Still entirely unnecessary lol, why not just retain even 25%?
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23 août 2023 à 19 h 24
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Still entirely unnecessary lol, why not just retain even 25%?


I get you, I really do... lol... BUT I just really doubt the Jets would retain on Hellebuyck unless it's a TDL trade which this hypothetical trade isn't.
23 août 2023 à 20 h 40
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That'd be a really dumb move, getting a late 1st is better then getting nothing.


No not unless it's a full tear down jets are better off competing this year and keeping Helle than a late first and a goalie that noone actually wants, with retention at the deadline they could easily get a first and prospect if they are out of playoffs. there's 0 reason to make this trade out of desperation
23 août 2023 à 21 h 3
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flawed idea. Smith's contract is $1.1M. I don't think it changes in Utica.
You're def not adding Benn and Halak
Cap space rn is $1,919,167+ VV's $3,400,000 = $5,319,167
CH salary is $6,166,666 - 5,319,167 = $847, 505 (the remaining money needed to find).
BTW Funny think is Cory Schneider Kovy and Janne Kuok are $2.7M dead cap hit!!!!
23 août 2023 à 21 h 10
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flawed idea. Smith's contract is $1.1M. I don't think it changes in Utica.
You're def not adding Benn and Halak
Cap space rn is $1,919,167+ VV's $3,400,000 = $5,319,167
CH salary is $6,166,666 - 5,319,167 = $847, 505 (the remaining money needed to find).
BTW Funny think is Cory Schneider Kovy and Janne Kuok are $2.7M dead cap hit!!!!


Yeah if Smith is demoted his cap hit goes to Utica with him, that's why I demoted him and signed a league minimum dman, for some cap space to fit Hellebuyck, maybe it can be done slightly different but you end up at pretty much the same result but probably with even less cap space left.
23 août 2023 à 21 h 12
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No not unless it's a full tear down jets are better off competing this year and keeping Helle than a late first and a goalie that noone actually wants, with retention at the deadline they could easily get a first and prospect if they are out of playoffs. there's 0 reason to make this trade out of desperation


Maybe but again this was just to see if NJ can fit Helle now without any retention involved.

I doubt a TDL trade will get much better of a return.
23 août 2023 à 23 h 25
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Maybe but again this was just to see if NJ can fit Helle now without any retention involved.

I doubt a TDL trade will get much better of a return.


Maybe not a alot more but another piece for sure
 
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