Maybe they just can't develop forwards?

Kakko, lafreniere, kravtsov, lias andersson

I mean kravtsov and andersson didn’t improve under their new teams either. Especially andersson

I’ll never understand why they rushed him into the NHL. You had Kreider and Panarin blocking his top 6 time. This organization needs to be patient with the new prospects like Othmann and Perreault

A lot of it has to do with the hard CAP you need cheap young players in the lineup to compensate for the high end salary

This is honestly a huge misconception. Top 10 picks? That's arguable. But -- Krav and Lias are busts and did nothing even on their other teams. If they just flat out suck and don't have what it takes, that's not completely on the Rangers, otherwise they would've shown even a little improvement once they left. But they didn't

And Laf and Kakko are still in the process of developing. No one would be mad at their performance up until this point, if they weren't 1 and 2OA. Let's see how they are doing in a few years, remember that Zibanejad didn't break out until he was like 26

The Rangers do fine with developing later picks. Forwards -- Kreider, Chytil, Perrault is likely to be a stud based on his draft position compared to the other two. Not to mention dmen like KAM, Schneider, Lindgren, Fox (even though a lot of credit can go to his time in the NCAA). And the Rangers have done amazing when it comes to developing goalies.

I know you said "can't develop forwards" specifically but I feel people twist it and make it "the Rangers can't develop at all" and it's just not the case

Perrault is going to be a stud I know it already. The Rangers are fantastic with developing picks around the #20 position. Kreider was 19OA, Chytil was 21OA, Schneider was 19OA, KAM was 22OA. Plus, he's going to be spending time in the NCAA so I think that helps us even more than him being in Hartford would

I mean you can still find that without having to throw a 19/20 year old on the 3rd line

Problem was the QMJHL was playing in 20/21 so Lafreniere didn't get that exemption to play in the AHL, he would have had to go back to the Q if he wasn't in the NHL.

Yeah I don't really get how it's the Rangers fault that one of them stayed up all night playing video games (Lias) and the other f**ked off back to Russia anytime the going got tough and any obstacles were in his way. Neither could make it at the NHL level regardless of what team they're on

Kravtsov killed his own development by not accepting play in the AHL. It was clear he was too weak and not accustomed to playing NA hockey

I fully agree. Chytil was sent down multiple times and what did he do? Put his head down, worked hard and got better. And look where he is now. Not sure what Kravtsov's problem was or why he thought the AHL was beneath him

Yea I hate entitled kids. I haven’t heard zac jones complain once but Lundkvist gets sent down and the following year he requests a trade lol

How is "Andersson and Krav didn't develop with the Rangers and then were bad on other teams" a defense of the Rangers not developing players? You expect guys who didn't develop to play 14 games on another team and suddenly become good? Not developing doesn't mean their skills are being repressed and they can just pop out other places. It means their skills never got developed and therefore they would take time to develop other places. And these new teams don't have time to waste on 23 year olds when they need to develop their own 18 year olds. The Rangers did not develop these forwards. They are currently doing the same with Laf and Kakko, these guys are just better so it's less noticeable and the Rangers can afford to keep playing them while not developing them properly.

I totally understand that other fanbases might not keep up with all the other behind-the-scenes info that NYR fans care about, but Krav and Lias both ****ed their own development. Not saying that it was 100% on them, but they played a big part in it.

Lias -- admitted to staying up all night playing video games, and taking sleeping pills because he was depressed and homesick waiting for his friends in Sweden to wake up. Now could this be a failure on the part of the Rangers organization, not giving him adequate mental health help? Definitely.... if they were aware of his issues, but he said they were not.

Krav - in 2019 he chose to **** off back to Russia, because he didn't make the Rangers main squad out of training camp and didn't want to play in Hartford. Stayed there for two years, then I believe it was at the beginning of the 2021-22 season where he was supposed to report back to Hartford and AGAIN refused, only returning for training camp the year after.

So I don't really think the Rangers can accept full blame for those two. I mean logically, why would the Rangers (in full rebuild mode at this point) try to screw over their top ten picks? One got into really bad habits and the other one literally thought he was above playing in the AHL, and preferred to go home instead of developing in Hartford. That's why they've been unable to hack it at the NHL level, it's not really about the Rangers repressing their skills when the players shoot themselves in the foot the entire time.

There's no excuse for Laf and Kakko. This is why I advocate sending away Panarin as soon as possible -- he is handcuffing the team with that horrific contract and he's blocking Laf at LW. Just awful roster construction. Kakko on the other hand, should be getting an extended look at 1RW this season, since we have basically no depth on that side. So we will see what happens with those two, but they're 21 and 22 years old (and not at risk of falling out of the league like Lias and Krav) so I'm not that worried about them right now