I like this idea, but I would think that Edvinsson's value is higher than Nylander's and that the Leafs would add instead of the Wings adding.

Just delete this bro lmfao

Oh my goodness. Just no

If you think Detroit wouldn't just buy out one of the more depth guys instead of, somehow, being stiff armed into trading waiver-exempt RFA; you'd be downright stupid.

Par for the course

there is a larger log jam at D now they added petery

Lol. Wouldn't trade Edvinsson straight up for Nylander. It is his contract next year that is the problem

There is no logjam yet, all the young guys are just going to really have to earn their spot on their team. If Edvidsson makes it, then someone else is just sitting as the 7th, if not then he's waiver exempt like someone said.

If Edvidsson can crack the Red Wings roster, they would be foolish to trade him when he's still on his ELC. If he can't crack the Red Wings roster, then why would the Leafs ever want to do this trade? They want to win now, and giving Detroit Nylander would just put them at the risk of missing the playoffs.

Have you guys seen Detroit's backend?

Walman and Seider are the top pair.

Maatta 2x$3M
Chariot 3x$4.75M
Both brought in last summer, both would cost to move out

Petry, Holl, Ghost all brought in this summer.

That's 7 NHL D right there.

Not to mention McIsaac isn't waiver exempt this year.

Wallinder and Tuomisto can also compete for a spot, both are older 2nd round picks with good potential.

I'm not sure where you see the space for Edvisson. If he is NHL ready which almost every analyst thinks he is, you need to trade 2 D, so either cough up picks to get rid of last summer's acquisitions, move a top pairing D or move someone you just got this summer to make space. Then if Wallinder or Tuomisto also make the team you have a major problem cause you have to move or waive guys.

Obviously they could go into training camp and play it out but if they want to maximize value trading a young guy now is the move. It's clear the goal is to compete today not in 5 years from now. They have made acquisitions that block their prospects from graduating. Similar to what LA did and they ended up trading away guys like Faber, Vilardi, Kupari that LA fans didn't want moved.

A) Edvinsson is waiver-exempt
B) Detroit would just buy out a defenseman if Edvinsson wasn't waiver-exempt. McIaac has been riddled with injury. Tuomisto and Holl are RD. Gostisbehere is on a 1-year deal. Chiarot can play RD if need be. Wallinder also played RD in the SHL.

You're preaching Detroit's situation to a Detroit fan.

Ok,

#1 What do you mean by "Buy Out". The next buyout period isn't until June 2024?
#2 If he thinks he is NHL-ready and there isn't an NHL spot for him doesn't he just end up in the same situation Yzerman created with Drouin, where you are then forced to trade him?
#3 You still haven't engaged with the fact that you have 7 NHL D. You can't move any of the 3 you just got unless you never want to sign a UFA again and to become an automatic name on every no-trade list. You'd be crazy to trade Seider and I don't think Walman would be on the table. So that leaves you with Chariot and Maatta. Are you willing to essentially trade a 1st or 1st+ just to dump them to keep Edvinsson?

So I'd ask you this question. What happens if you get to October 1st and Edvinsson is NHL ready as most people expect him to be? At that point you NEED to trade 2 of Walman/Seider/Maatta/Chariot or you need to start him in the AHL and hope he is ok with that. This isn't even considering the scenario where Wallinder and Tuomisto can also earn spots out of camp in which case you are getting on really thin ice with prospects demanding trades.

Every team looking to compete wants to have 7-NHL D, so if any of those AHL guys make the jump, that's when they will have a logjam but they have to make the jump first and earn their spot on the team. If they want to maximize the value of their young guys who aren't just going to lose value overnight while they are still on their ELC, they could wait for them to prove that they are NHL-ready (or not) if they are deciding to ship them off. A guy like Edvinsson isn't losing value if he's not NHL-ready this season, he's just not gaining any.

If the Leafs are trading Nylander, they are going to want someone who is NHL-ready, but Detroit isn't going to want to give up Edvinsson if he is, they will just offer someone else + plus futures.

Edit: Edvinsson, is most likely starting in the AHL this year, regardless if he's NHL-ready or not until they are able to move one of their other defenders unless he's too good/someone else is playing too poorly, and that's when they just waive the struggling D.

So, Detroit doesn't have a roster spot for a 20 year old blue chip D, so they're going to package him with another young roster player for a 27 year old pending UFA that may have priced himself out of Toronto? That only makes sense for the Leafs.

He's going to be starting in the AHL anyways bozo. He's coming back from injury lmfao. Good lord.

You're real optimistic about Wallinder and Tuomisto.
Wallinder, at minimum, needs a year in the AHL, and Tuomisto is not that good. Also Maatta is not a capdump.

Your level of Hopium and copium is just so strange.

Tuomisto is not ready at all. Wallinder could make it, but not very likely.
If Edvinsson makes it out of camp, someone has to sit or get sent down. No need to be trading firsts to get rid of contracts. Keep in mind that we are not up against the cap.