Not that

We can go to camp with all 9 and waive the lowest performer

Not this, Necas is arguably more valuable than Nylander. 15 points less, yes. But, 3 years younger, half the cap hit, and has team control? Why would the Canes add Pesce? . Stop it. It's probably Coghlan and Chatfield who move.

This horse has been beaten to death, no?

I like Necas but cmon, he isn’t in the same galaxy as Nylander scoring wise. Someone significant is moving on defense, likely either Skjei or Pesce, wether you like it or not.

There’s zero reason to have this many D men when you can’t score in the playoffs year after year. Take away Pesce or Skjei and it’s still one of the league’s best.

Pesce has leafs on his no-trade

Necas isn't interesting to the Leafs if they still rely on analytics. Every analytics model has him as an AHL level player who just got really lucky last year.

Did you see his no trade or has he said that in public? stop making up stuff

I believe both Friedman and Serevelli reported around the start of free agency.

"arguably" does not equal reality

I have not heard anything about who is on his no trade and lots about the Leaf's being interested in him and inquiring on him and not from this site lol

Well here is the definitive statement from an insider saying he knows for sure Pesce can't be traded to Toronto

https://www.mapleleafsinsider.com/Insider-reveals-that-a-top-defenseman-on-the-trade-market-does-not-want-to-play-in-Toronto-256984

If they can’t score in the playoffs, then last year must be a fluke. Since until they hit Bobrovsky, they were averaging one of the highest goals per game, if memory serves correct. And that was without Svechnikov and Patches for the playoffs, and mostly without Turbo as well.

They could certainly use another top 9 forward for extra offense, but there is no need to overpay for a winger who will be too expensive to even keep. Besides, with the dcore as it is currently, it’s more likely that Skjei would ends up being the odd man out. I don’t think Chatfield is completely ready for full time top 4 minutes, and TDA worked very well on the 3rd pairing with a PP role. Coghlan is another extra again this year, and I would be surprised if he doesn’t get claimed off of waivers at some point. The Canes don’t have a RD that can effectively replace what Pesce can do, so moving Pesce before Skjei would be quite unwise.

There weren’t any difference makers available via trade or FA this offseason. In fact we signed the only guy deemed a difference maker in orlov.

Then we signed a guy in the middle roster depth in Bunting.

Who really cares how they are spending the money when they are adding difference makers on really good contracts?

I find it interesting you trade a top scorer from a team struggling to score.

I don't mind moving Skjei, but it won't be Pesce. It's why they're still trying to extend him. You can argue whatever you want about Necas and Nylander, stats and value wise, they're close.

Are you one of those delusional leaf fans that is going to ignore stats and facts? I don't care, I just don't want to waste time trying to show you why Necas is at worst as valuable as Nylander if you're going to just tune out

I think you should look at the stats and see who is delusional. The only plus you have in your argument is that Necas is younger and a lower cap hit. Nylander is a game breaker and can single handily win you a game.

Necas has put up 1 decent season, Nylander has been scoring at a 30+ goal pace for the last 4 seasons.

Also adding Nylander to the Canes lineup he instantly becomes arguably their best player

Necas had 15 less points, you take the 3 year younger player. When Nylander was Necas' age, he had 41 points in 52 games. That's a 64 point pace, 5 points behind Necas. Plus, Necas has gamebreaking speed, something Nylander doesn't. Necas is better defensively (but it's close, and neither of them are above replacement level defensively). So you're right, check the stats.

Nylander would be the 3rd best *forward* and I want to emphasise that because he will never come close to Slavin

So you compare Necas Career year to Nylanders average year and forget about the constancy?

The fact that if the CANES are lucky and Necas continues at his career year might be as good as Nylander makes him more valuable?

Nylander does not have game breaking speed? shows you have no idea what Nylander brings




Aho is the only forward that I would say is equal to Nylander and I would give him the edge only because he's a center

Let's note that Nylander also plays with Matthews and Tavares. I will forever make the case Jesperi Kotkaniemi is underrated but come on. You say Necas *might* produce at that rate, which is fair. But Nylander could also see a significant drop in his production away from Toronto, especially in a system that kills offense as much as Carolina. Nylander does not have the game breaking speed Necas does. Necas hits the highest top speeds in the NHL, faster than MacKinnon, faster than McDavid. Stop it.

Svechnikov is also better than Nylander. You can make the case Svechnikov is better than Aho

We can also add that Nylander has double the points in the playoffs in the same amount of games

Now you are getting into the crazy drugs Where do you get his top speed faster than McJesus?