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Just leave Lindholm and Hanifin

Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 8 août 2023
Publié: 8 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Big trade with Buffalo
Lindholm and Hanifin to Buffalo for Peyton Krebs, Victor Olofsson, Henri Jokihauru, Isak Rosen, conditional 2nd round pick 2024 (will turn to 1st round pick if Sabres make 2024 NHL playoffs)

Final Lineup after trade:
Huberdeau/Kadri/Pelletier
Oloffsson/Krebs/Mangiapane
Sharangovich/Backlund/Coleman
Ruzicka/Dube/Duehr
Weegar/Andersson
Kylington/Tanev
Jokihauru/Zadorov
Scratches: Oesterle, Gilbert, Coronato
Transactions
CGY
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. Krebs, Peyton
  3. Olofsson, Victor
  4. Rosén, Isak
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
2nd round pick is conditional and will turn to 1st round pick if Buffalo makes the 2024 NHL playoffs.
Enfoui
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $78 651 666 $0 $1 262 500 $4 848 334 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
825 000 $825 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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8 août 2023 à 13 h 56
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Are you really a Flames fan? 🤔

You're the same guy who posted that one sided Flames/Red Wings trade yesterday, right? 😁
8 août 2023 à 13 h 57
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Why does BUF do this?
8 août 2023 à 14 h 20
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1- you’re asking for too much

2- we certainly aren’t even giving you HALF of that for 2 rentals

3- we have to pay Power & Dahlin big $$$ next year, so we definitely wouldn’t sign Hanifin as well- maybe Lindholm, but it would depend what he’s looking for

4- this big of a trade just won’t happen, not with us anyways
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8 août 2023 à 14 h 39
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Why does BUF do this?


why wouldn't Buffalo do this?
8 août 2023 à 15 h 16
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1- you’re asking for too much

2- we certainly aren’t even giving you HALF of that for 2 rentals

3- we have to pay Power & Dahlin big $$$ next year, so we definitely wouldn’t sign Hanifin as well- maybe Lindholm, but it would depend what he’s looking for


Quoting: Mike_Gartner
why wouldn't Buffalo do this?


Along with the 3 valid reasons listed above, the Sabres' core is being built around Thompson and Cozens as their top 2 centers - adding Lindholm would force either down the lineup or to play out of position on the wing.
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8 août 2023 à 15 h 49
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Along with the 3 valid reasons listed above, the Sabres' core is being built around Thompson and Cozens as their top 2 centers - adding Lindholm would force either down the lineup or to play out of position on the wing.


the ask is certainly not much -
Jokiharju and Olofsson aren't needed in Buffalo anymore and don't have a ton of value
Krebs and the 2nd are decent pieces
Rosen has some nice potential

why assume Thompson and Cozens would be forced out, maybe Lindholm moves to the wing?
if Buffalo is smart, they don't give Power "big" money next year - bridge.

trade like this puts Buffalo top 3 in Atlantic, not fighting for wild card (contingent on unproven goaltending - which they should still make a play for).
8 août 2023 à 17 h 0
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
why wouldn't Buffalo do this?


Money. You would have to pay much to Lindholm and Hanflin, and both would low on position ratings for Sabres. So basically you trade all that for rentals or you are overpaying players low on depth charts.
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8 août 2023 à 17 h 34
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
the ask is certainly not much -
Jokiharju and Olofsson aren't needed in Buffalo anymore and don't have a ton of value
Krebs and the 2nd are decent pieces
Rosen has some nice potential

why assume Thompson and Cozens would be forced out, maybe Lindholm moves to the wing?
if Buffalo is smart, they don't give Power "big" money next year - bridge.

trade like this puts Buffalo top 3 in Atlantic, not fighting for wild card (contingent on unproven goaltending - which they should still make a play for).


The ask is absolutely absurd for 2 rental players
ZERO CHANCE
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8 août 2023 à 18 h 30
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Quoting: rktkt66
Along with the 3 valid reasons listed above, the Sabres' core is being built around Thompson and Cozens as their top 2 centers - adding Lindholm would force either down the lineup or to play out of position on the wing.


I wouldn't mind lindholm, in fact he would look pretty nice here, and if we were a cup favorite this year, it would be tough to say no. As it stands though, it's too much to pay for one year, and theres probably half a dozen teams that should be much more interested in lindholm as a 1b.
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Quoting: python3504
Why does BUF do this?
Quoting: Mike_Gartner
why wouldn't Buffalo do this?
Quoting: Czu8iks
Money. You would have to pay much to Lindholm and Hanflin, and both would low on position ratings for Sabres. So basically you trade all that for rentals or you are overpaying players low on depth charts.
Quoting: sabres89
I wouldn't mind lindholm, in fact he would look pretty nice here, and if we were a cup favorite this year, it would be tough to say no. As it stands though, it's too much to pay for one year, and theres probably half a dozen teams that should be much more interested in lindholm as a 1b.

Hanifin would be the Sabres 3rd pairing LHD behind Power and Dahlin, with a near $5,000,000 AVV it would be a foolish use of assets.

Lindholm is the latest shiny new object that catches the eys of Buffalo ACGM's
gms...goals...pts...+/-
277...48........139...-55
293...48........144...-62
Which is Lindholm's first four seasons, which one is Casey Mittelstadt's NHL stats?
Remember Casey was being called a bust up until the last two months of last season.
Lindholm has had two remarkable seasons in his career scoring 69 goals and 160 pts in 163 games.
Excluding his first year and breakout years Elias has been good but not Kulich, Olofsson and a first good scoring between 39 to 64 pts. each season.

The top stats are Casey, let's give him two good line mates and see what happens.
8 août 2023 à 23 h 12
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
why wouldn't Buffalo do this?


1- you’re asking for too much

2- we certainly aren’t even giving you HALF of that for 2 rentals

3- we have to pay Power & Dahlin big $$$ next year, so we definitely wouldn’t sign Hanifin as well- maybe Lindholm, but it would depend what he’s looking for

4- this big of a trade just won’t happen, not with us anyways
9 août 2023 à 9 h 14
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1- you’re asking for too much

2- we certainly aren’t even giving you HALF of that for 2 rentals

3- we have to pay Power & Dahlin big $$$ next year, so we definitely wouldn’t sign Hanifin as well- maybe Lindholm, but it would depend what he’s looking for

4- this big of a trade just won’t happen, not with us anyways


i'm not asking for anything here.
i don't have a dog in this fight, not a fan of either team.

if you think Buffalo is giving up too much here, you are overvaluing players.
9 août 2023 à 20 h 41
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
i'm not asking for anything here.
i don't have a dog in this fight, not a fan of either team.

if you think Buffalo is giving up too much here, you are overvaluing players.


I don’t think Buffalo should WANT either player this trade is sending to us
Hard pass
 
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