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Créé par: KPasty
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 6 août 2023
Publié: 7 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
1950 000 $
Transactions
VAN
  1. Hertl, Tomas
  2. Rutta, Jan
Détails additionnels:
Deal done after Myers’ $5M bonus paid. He and Beauvillier rentals that can be traded for assets at deadline.
SJS
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony (650 000 $ retained)
  2. Klimovich, Danila
  3. Myers, Tyler
  4. Podkolzin, Vasily
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
  7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
2026 2nd conditional on Canucks making conference finals in 2024 or 2025. If only 2nd round is met in 2024 or 2025 then San Jose will receive Vancouvers 2026 4th round pick *or* if Vancouver owns multiple 3rd round picks in 2026 San Jose will receive the lowest of the picks owned.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de NJD
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2025
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2026
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $81 355 417 $850 000 $0 $2 144 583 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
787 500 $787 500 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG
UFA - 2

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7 août 2023 à 12 h 20
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Why would Hertl cost more to acquire than Karlsson?

San Jose saved net $20M in cash/cap and only got late a 1st round pick for Karlsson, the reigning Norris trophy winner.

In this trade, San Jose saves over $55M in cash, gives up a worse player, and somehow gets a 1st, Podkolzin, and Klimovich? Please.

A fair Hertl trade would be something like Boeser + Garland for Hertl straight up.
7 août 2023 à 12 h 27
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Quoting: bb1983
Why would Hertl cost more to acquire than Karlsson?

San Jose saved net $20M in cash/cap and only got late a 1st round pick for Karlsson, the reigning Norris trophy winner.

In this trade, San Jose saves over $55M in cash, gives up a worse player, and somehow gets a 1st, Podkolzin, and Klimovich? Please.

A fair Hertl trade would be something like Boeser + Garland for Hertl straight up.


Lmao, Garland and Boeser for Hertl? Absolutely brutal take
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7 août 2023 à 12 h 29
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Whats with these Hertl trades on here all of a sudden?

I like the player but he'll be 30 in November, why would any team want to pay a lot to take that off of SJ's hands?

Don't see why Van would need to retain on Beauvillier here, Ruuta wouldn't be a bad pickup for the Nucks meh defense but would imagine the Sharks might prefer to keep him, they do need to ice a team though I guess they are getting Myers for a year so he can fill a spot.

Interesting idea, something different on here anyway.. lol
7 août 2023 à 12 h 30
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Quoting: AStovetop
Lmao, Garland and Boeser for Hertl? Absolutely brutal take


Fans may not like it but ownership is gonna jump at the chance to save $30M. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
7 août 2023 à 12 h 32
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Quoting: bb1983
Fans may not like it but ownership is gonna jump at the chance to save $30M. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.


Plattner isn't a cheap owner. He believes in hockey deals that make sense. This is the worst trade proposal I've seen.
7 août 2023 à 13 h 1
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Quoting: AStovetop
Plattner isn't a cheap owner. He believes in hockey deals that make sense. This is the worst trade proposal I've seen.


A late 1st and a bunch of crap for Erik Karlsson is a hockey deal that makes sense?
7 août 2023 à 14 h 16
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Quoting: bb1983
A late 1st and a bunch of crap for Erik Karlsson is a hockey deal that makes sense?


Karlsson requesting a trade and his large cap hit are the two major things you're not thinking about.
Bad to use that trade as comparison.
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7 août 2023 à 14 h 16
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Quoting: bb1983
A late 1st and a bunch of crap for Erik Karlsson is a hockey deal that makes sense?


Yes, with only 1.5 mil retention. Why are you equating EK65 and Hertl? It's a completely different situation. He's well worth his contract, especially with the rising cap.
7 août 2023 à 15 h 48
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Quoting: bb1983
Fans may not like it but ownership is gonna jump at the chance to save $30M. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.


You were right that the offer is an overpay for Hertl but your counteroffer is just as bad in the opposite direction. You're undervaluing Hertl way too much. He probably would fetch something a bit less than what Meier got, with futures being more the focus
 
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