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Créé par: BCAPP
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 4 août 2023
Publié: 4 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
They're probably better off aiming for a cheaper to acquire and likely to resign at similar amounts as Karlsson even with retention hanifin. And they'll get hanifin through better ages

(This does assume one of Peterson, hanifin or graves can play Rd)

They'll be cap compliant when they waive one of the tenders
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CGY
  1. Granlund, Mikael
  2. Rutta, Jan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (PIT)
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Their best or second best prospect (I don't know their prospect pool)
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4 août 2023 à 21 h 35
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Daley is one of the few who actually suck on their "natural" side. Kinda like Ovi trying to play RW. It just doesn't work


IIRC Krug and Brodie are that way too. But my original point stands that 90+% of NHL dmen have a side that they play substantially better than the other. So expecting a player to play the opposite side that they've played their entire career is asking for a disaster. And of course most players will say they can do it.
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Unless they trade Pettersson it makes zero sense. And given the contract and acquisition cost of Hanifin, I'm skeptical it would be worth doing unless someone is completely overpaying for Pettersson.


Yup. I wanted Hanifin, but we got Graves instead. Pretty equivalent to Hanifin, but much cheaper
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4 août 2023 à 21 h 38
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That doesn't change the fact that he sucked. PIT forward lineup and goaltending were best in the league. Defense didn't need to be competent. They were only average with Letang and completely transformed into below average when he was out.


Bye full disclosure I checked he was second. Dumolin led it. But yeah it was the end of his career. He was a solid though not spectacular dman in Carolina for a long time though.
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IIRC Krug and Brodie are that way too. But my original point stands that 90+% of NHL dmen have a side that they play substantially better than the other. So expecting a player to play the opposite side that they've played their entire career is asking for a disaster. And of course most players will say they can do it.


Brodie seems one of the few players who can play both sides without issue. Doesn't really seem to have a preference. It's been awesome for us as he's been so flexible
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4 août 2023 à 21 h 39
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Daley is one of the few who actually suck on their "natural" side. Kinda like Ovi trying to play RW. It just doesn't work


Reminds me of one year where ovi almost got on the end of year all star team as a lw and rw. Lol

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Wow it wasnt almost. He was first team rw and second team lw

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/ovechkin-named-twice-to-nhl-all-star-team/
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4 août 2023 à 21 h 41
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IIRC Krug and Brodie are that way too. But my original point stands that 90+% of NHL dmen have a side that they play substantially better than the other. So expecting a player to play the opposite side that they've played their entire career is asking for a disaster. And of course most players will say they can do it.


It just doesn't work. They naturally go to the spots they normally cover. It's instinct. Hard to change what's ingrained
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Brodie seems one of the few players who can play both sides without issue. Doesn't really seem to have a preference. It's been awesome for us as he's been so flexible


Okay I thought he actually had a bad seasoning Calgary when they put them on the left side. He's criminally underrated on this site. But again the collective opinions on this site are bizarre.
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5 août 2023 à 0 h 18
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Okay I thought he actually had a bad seasoning Calgary when they put them on the left side. He's criminally underrated on this site. But again the collective opinions on this site are bizarre.


Can't speak for his time in Calgary. Have never watched much western conference games timing wise. But on the Leafs he's transitioned back and forth and consistently made his partners better
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It just doesn't work. They naturally go to the spots they normally cover. It's instinct. Hard to change what's ingrained


It's also covering the board on the point. It's a lot easier to trap the puck on your natural side. You can catch the puck with the blade of your stick regularly. On your off side it's the back hand of your stick against the boards. It sounds so small but holding the point is a big part of maintaining pressure and stopping breakouts against.
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