Leafs aren't willing to move their best RHD

Sabres aren’t gonna trade for Petry
We aren’t gonna allocate $5.5mil towards our (at best) 4th defenseman- especially not when Dahlin & Power are about to cost us a combined $17mil (or more) in Cap Space

It just doesn’t make sense for us
If we did have ANY interest whatsoever in him,
we could’ve already had him here

It isn’t happening

They do need Cap space pretty badly
But i doubt they’d want Carter for him

Carter most likely doesn't waive anyways.

I think if the pens trade Petry and retain around $1.5M that's good value on Petry. Might be a little more doable in this scenario having Petry at $4.75M AAV

I'd also assume Power gets a similar deal to Dahlin's first ($6M aav for 3 years). Guessing Dahlin get's $8-9M AAV, just personally don't see him getting more $$ than Makar/Fox

Can u explain your fellow Pens fans’ obsession with sending Petry to the Sabres?
I don’t think anyone is gonna take him off your guys hands

Well….
*IF the Pens were willing to hold (whatever amount of) money,
and
*IF another team was interested,

Then don’t u think he’d have been moved by now??
Teams don’t have Cap Space
Even if u guys held half (which i doubt you’d do),
I think you’d have a hard time getting rid of him



And going off the recent deals the Sabres signed Thompson & Cozens to, it seems the Sabres are trying to lock up their core members to long term deals
That means they’re gonna cost a bit more
So I’d expect Dahlin to be around $10mil & Power to be around $7.5mil for long term deals

ehhh I wouldn't say the sabres are the obsession, it's really been Hawks and Wings 10x more.

I'm guessing anyone would look at the Sabres and see their right side and think swapping Petry for Lyubushkin would be an upgrade for the Sabres while helping the penguins cap situation (which I would probably agree is an upgrade, but obviously his cap hit isn't worth his current play although he was fine in Pittsburgh last year honestly).

The obsession is more so around the fans that really want EK and the only way EK becomes possible is moving Petry (for cap and the roster spot). Petry has a 15 team NTC and he's stated that he wants to play as close to his family as possible whom live in Michigan. This was one of the reasons he was happy to come to Pittsburgh. Everything is speculation of course but 15 teams and knowing his desire to stay close to Michigan most logical Pens fans assume all 7 Canadian teams are on the NTC, the 3 Cali teams, Seattle, AZ. After that it's probably a toss up for the last 3 but I'd say some combo of Vegas, Florida, Tampa and maybe like Philly and CBJ (just cause they haven't been great)

Sure, Petry is better than Lyubushkin
But Lyubushkin isn’t in our top4
Heck, i don’t even think he’s in our top6 defensemen

So in reality, the Sabres would need to think Petry is significantly better than Clifton or Erik Johnson- or really, BOTH

And he might be
BUT if the Sabres thought that- then why haven’t they already made the move to get Petry???
What are they waiting for?
And why not just get Petry in the first place, and not bother signing Clifton or Johnson???


It’s not just as simple as Petry > Lyubushkin
And especially when u take into account Petry’s cap hit….

It just doesn’t make sense that it would happen,
even if there’s a couple Sabres fans (gretzkyghosts & buff36) who don’t seem to understand why it won’t

I think you need to take into account that a lot of people on here are just reaching for things and trying to look at a situation from 35,000ft and thinking what possibly could work lol. Which from a 35K ft view I'd think Petry could (not by any means saying it happens, I think he's on the ice in Pittsburgh opening night) but as you said he's better than Lyubushkin, and he's probably better than Erik Johnson at this point.. I'm actually surprised he didn't retire honestly, felt like he was a shell of himself last year and just so banged up after that cup run. I like Clifton though.

I've never really cared for the response on here around trades of "if they wanted x player in the first place they'd acquire x player" because who knows how these GMs operate...Feel like things change so much and in reality to me there are only so many of those guys that truly fit the mold of a player GM's really actively hunt on a trade market (like a Debrincat level guy).

For all we know they could've called about Petry but the pens may have said no because they know EK isn't happening, we just all sit here and speculate lol.

I also just think it's been way too quiet of a summer. Like I know the cap is an issue, but man... it's been dull. Just feels like some trades need to start happening, and I look at multiple teams and feel like they're not done yet.

So who knows what happens, but I don't see EK to pens and thus I don't see Petry anywhere else.

Barabanov trade is interesting.
Don’t love it or hate it, not sure really but I hate losing him.

Sabres are not interested at 5,5 mil aav, depth defensemen way above 30yrs old

Very unusual to read a post from an ACGM who follows another team to have the same vision as mine.
Petry at $4,750,000 and swapping out Lyubushkin would be a huge upgrade for the Sabres.
Jeff hits, blocks, scores and eats minutes.
He could play with any of the LHD.
With Dahlin, Jeff would watch his back and allow Rasmus to roam.
With Power or Samauelsson Jeff would be an on ice mentor.

As for Dahlin and Power salaries using Makar and Fox as comparables, $9,000,000 would be the top for Dahlin and maybe you are correct with $8,000,000 as the floor.
I just cannot envision Dahlin as a $10,000,000 LHD, for many reasons.
First, Fox and Makar have more intrinsic value as they are both RHD.
Second, Thompson and Cozens signed for significantly less, more or less setting the tone for future salaries as well.
Finally, there is the Buffalo discount, https://gavingroup.ca/lifestyle-rankings/
Buffalo is ranked 2nd while Colorado is 18th and NY City is 32nd.
I should add, Dahlin at $8,000,000 for 7 years, would make it easier to keep all of the younger players.

Hard to tell about Power, he may prove to be better than Dahlin so a 3 year bridge of $6,000,000 appears to be in line as well.

Excellent observations, thank you for your input.

Petry for Lyubushkin is the exact opposite of "New approach"