Tage put up 47 goals this year, JT scored 36, The offense isn't all towards Tage, and Tage only had 3 more assists than johnny with 47. So Tage isn't that much better offensively than Tavares. And Tavares is still better on the defensive side of the puck.

JT isn’t good defensively. He’s neutral at best. And Tage isn’t terrible at it, he’s just mildly bad. So the impact JT has on the ice defensively doesn’t overtake the fact that Tage is vastly superior offensively. Now the leadership aspect. Do you really think that JT is gonna be happy being traded? Will be maintain being this obviously best leader in the NHL (that can’t push his team when needed)? Or will he become a problem because he forced his way to only TOR, and now is in a place he doesn’t want to be?

How about contract length? Does that matter to you? What about age? What about Tage growing with the young core together and becoming leaders themselves?

Literally makes zero sense and you trying to push it because “leadership” is laughable. Keep going if you want, this is terrible, you know it is, I’m done here.

That’s like 25% more goals… how is that not significant lol.

Toronto has a core of player currently in their prime and a little bit past that he can learn from. Tage is theoretically in his prime right now being 25 so he won't get much better both have 7 years left on their deals. and why are you so set on the fact that this is a terrible deal when you've only looked at the Thompson and Tavares aspect, the value rounds itself out in the end, this is only a bad deal to you because you see Tavares as an aging hasbeen and Tage Thompson as a gift from the gods. And the point of this deal is for Toronto to get out of the cap hole while not losing talent. and Buffalo still gets a valuable piece in Tavares because we both know he's worth far more than nothing

They both don’t have 7 years. Tage has 7, JT has 2. What are you talking about.

They both don’t have 7 years. Tage has 7, JT has 2. What are you talking about.

Sorry, that's my mistake. By the end of the contract, you could sign JT for less because of the AGE factor so what are you still complaining about?

That’s never a guarantee. NYI thought they were gonna keep him, he wanted to go home. You don’t make trades based upon 2 year out potential resignings. Also, the age factor does matter. 32 vs 25. You say Tage is at his peak, so JT is going to be on the downward trend. But Buffalo should gift him to Tor all in the name of leadership for a declining player? Your premise doesn’t make any sense, it’s a bad deal for Buffalo

You do make trade based upon 2 years out of a potential resigning, it' actually very common in the modern NHL, it's called a rental, and at his current age, like fleury Tavares would likely resign with Buffalo not wanting to uproot his family near the end of his career.

Toronto has a core of player currently in their prime and a little bit past that he can learn from. Tage is theoretically in his prime right now being 25 so he won't get much better both have 7 years left on their deals. and why are you so set on the fact that this is a terrible deal when you've only looked at the Thompson and Tavares aspect, the value rounds itself out in the end, this is only a bad deal to you because you see Tavares as an aging hasbeen and Tage Thompson as a gift from the gods. And the point of this deal is for Toronto to get out of the cap hole while not losing talent. and Buffalo still gets a valuable piece in Tavares because we both know he's worth far more than nothing

You do make trade based upon 2 years out of a potential resigning, it' actually very common in the modern NHL, it's called a rental, and at his current age, like fleury Tavares would likely resign with Buffalo not wanting to uproot his family near the end of his career.

They do if the value is there, the sabres have been looking for a veteran who can lead the team with his words and with his ability to play the game. Tavares being of course that veteran leader can still put up 25-35 goals per year and he has better defensive numbers than Tage.

You do make trade based upon 2 years out of a potential resigning, it' actually very common in the modern NHL, it's called a rental, and at his current age, like fleury Tavares would likely resign with Buffalo not wanting to uproot his family near the end of his career.

YOU DON'T TRADE AN ELITE NHL PLAYER FOR A RENTAL.

Common sense. Or...maybe not so common?

Outsider looking in….. holy wow this is terrible for Buffalo.

Common sense. Or...maybe not so common?

It's honestly inconceivable how much OP believes this trade is good for both teams.

THINK ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP

Not only the leadership the Tavares' offensive output wasn't far off from Thompsons

11 goals is pretty significant. Also factor in that the gap will only grow since tage is entering his prime and JT is only getting further past his.

2 pages defending this trade

No, Tage is in his prime. and 11 goals is the equivalent to a Ryan Reaves type player getting 4th line minutes. it may seem like alot but it really isn't.

This is a take I guess

What do you mean?