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Trade stolen from a trade machine thread

Créé par: pretzelcoatl
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 26 juill. 2023
Publié: 26 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1975 000 $
Transactions
NJD
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor (3 066 756 $ retained)
  2. Scheifele, Mark
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
WPG
  1. Filmon, Josh
  2. Foote, Nolan
  3. Haula, Erik
  4. Vanecek, Vitek
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  7. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Rachats de contrats
Frais appliqués
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de MTL
Logo de NJD
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Logo de NSH
2025
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
2026
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $81 235 745 $422 500 $2 175 000 $2 264 255 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 8
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 099 911 $3 099 911 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
775 000 $775 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
975 000 $975 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1

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26 juill. 2023 à 11 h 59
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26 juill. 2023 à 12 h 1
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No from Jersey.
26 juill. 2023 à 12 h 2
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Quoting: Fabi
No from Jersey.


Why? Look at it this way:

Haula+trade down 10-15 spots for Scheifele

Foote, Filmon, Vanecek, 3rd, 5th for Hellebuyck

It's an amazing trade for NJ. Only problem is Haula would block it with his full NTC
26 juill. 2023 à 12 h 6
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Terrible for Winnipeg, no thanks.
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26 juill. 2023 à 12 h 8
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Terrible for Winnipeg, no thanks.


I don't disagree. I posted this to make a point to people saying it's bad for NJ
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26 juill. 2023 à 12 h 8
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Pretty easy no from Winnipeg. Nothing needed or of any quality outside of a mid to late 1st.

Winnipeg would opt for less quantity and some actual quality for a full year of both players when they easily get more at the TDL.

Trades don't work like this, it's not one team giving up a bunch of disappointing players and propects that have no potential left and very little value for a couple high end desirable players. There has to be something that the team giving up the high end players would actually value.
26 juill. 2023 à 12 h 9
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl


Your mistake was copying a trade from a troll poster.
26 juill. 2023 à 12 h 12
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Why? Look at it this way:

Haula+trade down 10-15 spots for Scheifele

Foote, Filmon, Vanecek, 3rd, 5th for Hellebuyck

It's an amazing trade for NJ. Only problem is Haula would block it with his full NTC


My Problem is with the Scheifle Part, Hellebucky could fetch that return. There is just no reason to trade for Scheifle, Haula has worked fine on the third, and even though Scheifle's offensive skills of course would be an upgrade his defensive play and work attitude are abysmal.
26 juill. 2023 à 12 h 14
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Quoting: Fabi
My Problem is with the Scheifle Part, Hellebucky could fetch that return. There is just no reason to trade for Scheifle, Haula has worked fine on the third, and even though Scheifle's offensive skills of course would be an upgrade his defensive play and work attitude are abysmal.


I think Scheifele is so much better than Haula that it doesn't matter at all. The price to make the move is just trading back 10-15 spots from the late first to mid 2nd. Last time we made a deal like that we were able to draft Casey
26 juill. 2023 à 13 h 15
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
I think Scheifele is so much better than Haula that it doesn't matter at all. The price to make the move is just trading back 10-15 spots from the late first to mid 2nd. Last time we made a deal like that we were able to draft Casey


I say it again and partly agree with you, Scheifle is offensively much better than Haula, you are right about that but as the third-line center I would rather have Haula because of Scheifels bad defensive game and work attitude.
26 juill. 2023 à 13 h 20
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No need for Winnipeg to pay a 2nd in a deal like this. On top of that, it’s just really unnecessary for NJ to ship Haula out after signing a 3 year deal, for Scheifele who is more of a top 6 role and expires in one year anyways.
26 juill. 2023 à 14 h 13
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No need for Winnipeg to pay a 2nd in a deal like this. On top of that, it’s just really unnecessary for NJ to ship Haula out after signing a 3 year deal, for Scheifele who is more of a top 6 role and expires in one year anyways.


I agree on Haula, and he wouldn't waive his NTC anyway. I disagree that player roles matter, I think there shouldn't be such a thing as a "third line role." This was just an experiment to show that this proposal from trade machine is good for NJ since there were comments hating on it from both sides.
26 juill. 2023 à 14 h 49
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26 juill. 2023 à 14 h 58
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Yes I'm aware, as I said in the title I took this from another thread
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