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CGY Mess

Créé par: jcambers
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 6 juill. 2023
Publié: 6 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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If Lindholm hasn't signed by now he's not going to. You've got to try and trade him and max out your assets - maybe look into sending he and Hanifin back to CAR, since they're in "win now" mode for younger players and draft assets.
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  2. Necas, Martin
  3. Teräväinen, Teuvo
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6 juill. 2023 à 22 h 52
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I wouldn't
6 juill. 2023 à 22 h 53
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Carolina isnt trading Necas
6 juill. 2023 à 22 h 55
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Value is fine but I can’t see canes doing it. Already have Slavin orlov Skjei on the left plus burns pesce chatty and soon to be tda on the right so hanifin makes no sense short term and long term. Lindholm would be good in the short term but I can’t see us giving him the Horvat or Dubois deals. Canes MO isn’t to move young cost controlled assets for very likely rentals.
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6 juill. 2023 à 23 h 55
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Why is it so important that Lindholm hasn't signed but isn't for any of Aho, Matthews, Nylander, Toews, Montour, Stamkos, Marchessault, Scheifele, or Hellebuyck
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7 juill. 2023 à 9 h 16
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Why is it so important that Lindholm hasn't signed but isn't for any of Aho, Matthews, Nylander, Toews, Montour, Stamkos, Marchessault, Scheifele, or Hellebuyck


I think because it was pretty public that he said he wasn’t extending in CGY (at least at first, I know they’re still putting full blitz on and not trying to trade right now).

Most of the rest of that list hasn’t leaked out or been reported that negotiations aren’t going well or player doesn’t want to sign there long term. A couple of guys (Nylander, Helley) there have been some reports in the vein of “negotiations not starting well” or “far apart for now”. Scheif has also been in the trade rumor mill bc it seems like they won’t be extending him.
7 juill. 2023 à 9 h 22
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I think because it was pretty public that he said he wasn’t extending in CGY (at least at first, I know they’re still putting full blitz on and not trying to trade right now).

Most of the rest of that list hasn’t leaked out or been reported that negotiations aren’t going well or player doesn’t want to sign there long term. A couple of guys (Nylander, Helley) there have been some reports in the vein of “negotiations not starting well” or “far apart for now”. Scheif has also been in the trade rumor mill bc it seems like they won’t be extending him.


He literally never said that though. Negotiations also haven't been reported to be going poorly either
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7 juill. 2023 à 9 h 30
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He literally never said that though. Negotiations also haven't been reported to be going poorly either


Believe Seravelli, Dreger, Friedman all reported that he rejected a max deal in the Horvat range already and said he wasn’t interested in signing long term bc he wasn’t sure the flames wouldn’t enter a rebuild soon.

We can doubt the reports or who they’re coming from, or chalk it up to negotiating tactics or whatever. Just going off of what’s been reported and speculated by “insiders”. I’m weary of a lot of stuff that comes out but it seems a bit silly to ignore all of it.
7 juill. 2023 à 9 h 40
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Believe Seravelli, Dreger, Friedman all reported that he rejected a max deal in the Horvat range already and said he wasn’t interested in signing long term bc he wasn’t sure the flames wouldn’t enter a rebuild soon.

We can doubt the reports or who they’re coming from, or chalk it up to negotiating tactics or whatever. Just going off of what’s been reported and speculated by “insiders”. I’m weary of a lot of stuff that comes out but it seems a bit silly to ignore all of it.


No they didn't, they've all stated that he's been offered one, not rejected.
7 juill. 2023 à 11 h 9
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No they didn't, they've all stated that he's been offered one, not rejected.


Haha ok man. You asked a question and I provided my opinion based on what’s been widely reported. I’m not interested in getting into word play semantics when it’s pretty clear what’s happening. Enjoy your day.
7 juill. 2023 à 11 h 44
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Haha ok man. You asked a question and I provided my opinion based on what’s been widely reported. I’m not interested in getting into word play semantics when it’s pretty clear what’s happening. Enjoy your day.


I mean you are making up stuff to prove your point. I don't know what you expect me to say
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7 juill. 2023 à 12 h 3
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I mean you are making up stuff to prove your point. I don't know what you expect me to say


Lol, sure.
9 juill. 2023 à 3 h 10
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Quoting: vikhodush
Believe Seravelli, Dreger, Friedman all reported that he rejected a max deal in the Horvat range already and said he wasn’t interested in signing long term bc he wasn’t sure the flames wouldn’t enter a rebuild soon.

We can doubt the reports or who they’re coming from, or chalk it up to negotiating tactics or whatever. Just going off of what’s been reported and speculated by “insiders”. I’m weary of a lot of stuff that comes out but it seems a bit silly to ignore all of it.


Quoting: vikhodush
Believe Seravelli, Dreger, Friedman all reported that he rejected a max deal in the Horvat range already and said he wasn’t interested in signing long term bc he wasn’t sure the flames wouldn’t enter a rebuild soon.

We can doubt the reports or who they’re coming from, or chalk it up to negotiating tactics or whatever. Just going off of what’s been reported and speculated by “insiders”. I’m weary of a lot of stuff that comes out but it seems a bit silly to ignore all of it.


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Lol, sure.

It’s true that Lindholm has NOT said he would not re-sign…as for sources, Seravalli guesses and hedges a lot using creative language, Friedman says things like “my feeling is that….” and people jump on it incorrectly….get the ACTUAL words, noting they are highly qualified statements by these insiders who just want to stay relevant and increase clicks, which increases advertising and thus their pay.
9 juill. 2023 à 14 h 35
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It’s true that Lindholm has NOT said he would not re-sign…as for sources, Seravalli guesses and hedges a lot using creative language, Friedman says things like “my feeling is that….” and people jump on it incorrectly….get the ACTUAL words, noting they are highly qualified statements by these insiders who just want to stay relevant and increase clicks, which increases advertising and thus their pay.


Whatever makes you feel better. It’s fun watching ppl pick and choose when to believe reporters lol
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9 juill. 2023 à 22 h 55
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Whatever makes you feel better. It’s fun watching ppl pick and choose when to believe reporters lol


Whatever works for you as you clearly aren’t smart enough to LISTEN TO EXACT WORDS of reporters
9 juill. 2023 à 23 h 1
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Whatever works for you as you clearly aren’t smart enough to LISTEN TO EXACT WORDS of reporters


Alright brother have fun in dream land.
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10 juill. 2023 à 2 h 2
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Alright brother have fun in dream land.


I am “not listening” (to you), but I do listen carefully to reporters so please PROVE ME WRONG with your sources and exact language saying what you believe was said
10 juill. 2023 à 9 h 58
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I am “not listening” (to you), but I do listen carefully to reporters so please PROVE ME WRONG with your sources and exact language saying what you believe was said


Cool. Blissful ignorance is fun and I’m not really concerned about what you’re doing.
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10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 16
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Cool. Blissful ignorance is fun and I’m not really concerned about what you’re doing.


Right, so you cannot prove me wrong, so you resort to insults…nice! You name on here apparently ends with “douche”, how appropriate!
10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 25
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Right, so you cannot prove me wrong, so you resort to insults…nice! You name on here apparently ends with “douche”, how appropriate!


Where did I insult you? You resort to it, not me. But again, not concerned with what you think so who cares - maybe that’s an “insult” in your mind lol.
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10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 29
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Not concerned with what I say, but keep on replying…LMAO! And telling someone “blissful ignorance” and not proving why that’s so is insulting. Let’s see the video, audio, or written quotes what you “know” was said was actually said by the 3 “journalists” mentioned above. Can you send it?
 
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