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Karlsson In Pesce Out

Créé par: gaz
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 5 juill. 2023
Publié: 5 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I'd imagine the Tarasenko (alleged) deal has since fallen through now that he's switched agents to Brisson. Was probably looking at a 1y x ~4m deal for CAR vs likely 2-3 years and more money from OTT and maybe he wasn't satisfied with the money he felt he wasn't getting by those offers. Also hopefully the deal with PHI doesn't come to fruition if we're trying to get Karlsson as we'd be super pressed for cap space and DeAngelo would probably be the 3rd or 4th best puck mover on the D-side behind Karlsson, Burns, & Orlov.
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CAR
  1. Kemell, Joakim
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NSH)
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  1. Pesce, Brett
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Pesce agrees to an 8y x 6.5m extension
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CAR
  1. Karlsson, Erik (3 500 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. Trikozov, Gleb [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
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5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 26
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You forgor Tony DeAngelo is coming to ruin it...

DeAngelo 50% retained coming July 8th

Edit: sorry, I read the description. Well, we shall see. Crazy CAR has this much cap space either way
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5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 27
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You forgot how to spell forgot in your vigor to hate TDA

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You forgor Tony DeAngelo is coming to ruin it...

DeAngelo 50% retained coming July 8th
gaz a aimé ceci.
5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 27
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Kemell won't be moved. Simple as that
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5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 28
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You forgot how to spell forgot in your vigor to hate TDA


I love DeAngelo, and forgor is a meme.

By "ruin it" I meant the EK69 trade
5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 29
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What is a meme?

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I love DeAngelo, and forgor is a meme.

By "ruin it" I meant the EK69 trade
5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 32
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Quoting: mvp13
You forgor Tony DeAngelo is coming to ruin it...

DeAngelo 50% retained coming July 8th

Edit: sorry, I read the description. Well, we shall see. Crazy CAR has this much cap space either way


Waddell said that there was a deal in principle but maybe if the Karlsson trade can be pulled off before then, the Canes would then subsequently pass on following through with the DeAngelo trade come July 8th.
5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 33
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Kemell won't be moved. Simple as that


What futures package would you trade for Pesce? Can't see the Canes trading him away only to take on more cap unless it's a clear top-6 forward.
5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 34
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Tarasenko EK65 and TDA can all happen. Turbo and one of Pesce/Skjei would have to be moved out. TDA isn’t really the cog messing any of this up.

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Waddell said that there was a deal in principle but maybe if the Karlsson trade can be pulled off before then, the Canes would then subsequently pass on following through with the DeAngelo trade come July 8th.
5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 37
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Anything we gain from moving Pesce will need to be used to acquire Karlsson
5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 45
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Quoting: Caniac555
Tarasenko EK65 and TDA can all happen. Turbo and one of Pesce/Skjei would have to be moved out. TDA isn’t really the cog messing any of this up.


I know it can happen, but that doesn't necessarily mean it should happen. You'd expect Turbo to bounce back, especially when surrounding him with better quality players/opportunities this season, and I don't think TDA would be an issue to bring back, apart from the fact that by bringing in both Karlsson & TDA, you're now pushing Chatfield out of the lineup. I'm all for competition and making guys earn spots but if it comes at the cost of hindering a promising young(ish) player's development, then are you losing more in the long term than you're gaining in the short term? Especially when TDA would be the 3rd or 4th best puck moving D-man on the team behind Karlsson, Burns, and Orlov.
5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 47
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You assume that TDA would play over Chatfield, which I do not.

Turbo might bounce back, but are you signing him to an extension? I’m not, time to move on if it bring more goal scoring. It’s a shame because if TT was more aggressive with his shot he could be a 25-30 goal scorer. The book is written at this point.

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I know it can happen, but that doesn't necessarily mean it should happen. You'd expect Turbo to bounce back, especially when surrounding him with better quality players/opportunities this season, and I don't think TDA would be an issue to bring back, apart from the fact that by bringing in both Karlsson & TDA, you're now pushing Chatfield out of the lineup. I'm all for competition and making guys earn spots but if it comes at the cost of hindering a promising young(ish) player's development, then are you losing more in the long term than you're gaining in the short term? Especially when TDA would be the 3rd or 4th best puck moving D-man on the team behind Karlsson, Burns, and Orlov.
5 juill. 2023 à 14 h 55
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You assume that TDA would play over Chatfield, which I do not.

Turbo might bounce back, but are you signing him to an extension? I’m not, time to move on if it bring more goal scoring. It’s a shame because if TT was more aggressive with his shot he could be a 25-30 goal scorer. The book is written at this point.


Then why follow through with a trade for a guy who you don't even plan to play and takes up 2.5m in cap space? You could put that money towards a TDL acquisition or a current free agent like Tarasenko instead of slotting 2.5m in the press box.
5 juill. 2023 à 15 h 4
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Past actions predict future actions - Canes don’t do a lot at the TDL

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Then why follow through with a trade for a guy who you don't even plan to play and takes up 2.5m in cap space? You could put that money towards a TDL acquisition or a current free agent like Tarasenko instead of slotting 2.5m in the press box.
5 juill. 2023 à 15 h 38
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Huge pass from Nashville
5 juill. 2023 à 15 h 52
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Huge pass from Nashville


What futures package would you be willing to trade for Pesce?
5 juill. 2023 à 15 h 55
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What futures package would you be willing to trade for Pesce?


I wouldn’t trade no top forward prospects. I’d do 25 1st and 24 2nd and fabbro. I’d add a pick if needed. Nashville is in no position to lose a forward for a defenseman.
 
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