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3 team trade for Karlsson

Créé par: Dunphy66
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 4 juill. 2023
Publié: 4 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2950 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2950 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Karlsson, Erik (5 030 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
SJ would eat 25% (2.875) on Karlsson
Anaheim would eat 25% of remaining (2.16)

Cap to penguins would be 6.47M per

Devils 2nd round pick will be sent to Anaheim
SJS
  1. Nylander, Alexander
  2. Petry, Jeff
  3. Pickering, Owen
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
2.
PIT
ANA
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Penguins would send POJ + NYR 7th round pick to Anaheim for retaining money on Karlsson.

Total compensation to Anaheim would be POJ, NYR 7th round pick in 2024, and NJD 2nd round pick in 2024.
3.
PIT
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
CHI
  1. Granlund, Mikael (2 000 000 $ retained)
4.
PIT
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $78 686 842 $0 $0 $4 813 158 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
950 000 $950 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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5 375 000 $5 375 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
4 970 000 $4 970 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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4 juill. 2023 à 8 h 25
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There is no way the Hawks are sending anything to Pittsburgh for Granlund, as a matter of fact the Penguins would need to send a significant package to the Hawks in order for them to take on Granlund’s deal.
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4 juill. 2023 à 8 h 30
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How does that even begin to entice ANA to retain over 2M for 4 seasons to help one of their biggest rivals trade away an anchor contract?

Not even close to getting ANA to be on board tears of joy
4 juill. 2023 à 8 h 46
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There is no way the Hawks are sending anything to Pittsburgh for Granlund, as a matter of fact the Penguins would need to send a significant package to the Hawks in order for them to take on Granlund’s deal.


I'm not sure if you've seen the contracts that the Hawks are giving out, but you're wrong on this one lol.
4 juill. 2023 à 8 h 53
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How does that even begin to entice ANA to retain over 2M for 4 seasons to help one of their biggest rivals trade away an anchor contract?

Not even close to getting ANA to be on board tears of joy


It doesn't have to be Anaheim. It can be Chicago or Arizona - but getting a former 1st round pick who's just coming into his prime, on a cheap deal + a second round pick and a 7th round pick is more compensation than any of these teams will actually receive to be a third party lol.

EDIT: I'm not sure who you think Erik Karlsson is, but with the cap expecting to jump approx 10M in the next 2 seasons and having him literally JUST score 100 points as a defenseman on the worst team in hockey hardly qualifies his contract as "an anchor". He's just won the Norris lol - You're acting like he's awful, they're going to have to give up alot to get him.
4 juill. 2023 à 8 h 59
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Modifié 4 juill. 2023 à 9 h 5
Quoting: Dunphy66
I'm not sure if you've seen the contracts that the Hawks are giving out, but you're wrong on this one lol.


Oh I’ve seen them, I’ve also listened to the interviews with their GM and coach and their explanations on why they were brought in. Both Perry and Foligno are widely respected veterans who are loved by teammates, Luke Richardson was with the Habs when Perry was there and spoke glowingly about how good he is with rookies, almost like another coach. Both are definitely overpaid but it is for one year and not all about what they provide on the ice.

Athanasiou is overpaid as well but is a known commodity for the Hawks given he was there last year. Management was also very impressed with his locker room presence and the fact that he had a very good on ice connection with Reichel at the end of the season.

As for Granlund he doesn’t bring anything the Hawks don’t already have or need. Friedman has been reporting the Hawks will still take on cap dumps but since FA is well underway and cap space is becoming more valuable and rare, their price tag is very high. Offering a 6th round pick for Granlund is not realistic, even with $2m retained it isn’t even remotely realistic. The Hawks got a 2nd last season for Jason Dickinson who’s cap hit is less than Granlund with $2m retained.
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4 juill. 2023 à 9 h 3
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Quoting: Dunphy66
I'm not sure if you've seen the contracts that the Hawks are giving out, but you're wrong on this one lol.


If you look at the contracts the Hawks gave out, yes, they overpaid to get to the floor, but all these deals are for one year. The Hawks have made the floor and Granlund has two years left. Davidson has leverage here, so like Snowhawk 18 said, they're going to want a significant package coming back to take on Granlund's contract.
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4 juill. 2023 à 9 h 10
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If you look at the contracts the Hawks gave out, yes, they overpaid to get to the floor, but all these deals are for one year. The Hawks have made the floor and Granlund has two years left. Davidson has leverage here, so like Snowhawk 18 said, they're going to want a significant package coming back to take on Granlund's contract.


They're going to want a significant package to take a 2.5M contract over 2 years for a player who, while he isn't as good as he once was - scored 41 points last year?

I think ya'll are nuts lol. You don't get 2.5M retained + a "significant" package. The hawks are going to need help getting to the floor in each of the next three seasons and won't be a playoff bound team until likely, year 4 or 5 of bedard.

Hawk's fans are insane
4 juill. 2023 à 9 h 31
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If the Pens are willing to retain $2m on Granny as you propose, they won't have any problem moving him. Just don't think it will be to the Hawks.
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4 juill. 2023 à 10 h 7
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They're going to want a significant package to take a 2.5M contract over 2 years for a player who, while he isn't as good as he once was - scored 41 points last year?

I think ya'll are nuts lol. You don't get 2.5M retained + a "significant" package. The hawks are going to need help getting to the floor in each of the next three seasons and won't be a playoff bound team until likely, year 4 or 5 of bedard.

Hawk's fans are insane


Everyone said they would have problems getting to the cap floor this year and yet they managed it easily.

Teams need to be prepared to pay the piper or take their cap dumps elsewhere.
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