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SJS Post Draft 2324

Créé par: wi11dabeast
Équipe: 2023-24 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 29 juin 2023
Publié: 29 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
13 360 000 $
2800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1950 000 $
1800 000 $
21 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1825 000 $
2825 000 $
1925 000 $
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Petry, Jeff
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
2024 2nd Upgrades to a 1st rd pick if PIT wins 1 round in the 2024 playoffs. If PIT decides to trade the 2024 1st rd pick, and they win 1 round, then SJ receives a 2025 top 5 protected first instead.
2.
SJS
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
TOR
3.
SJS
  1. Fisker Mølgaard, Oscar [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (SEA)
Détails additionnels:
2024 1st is top 8 protected.
SEA
  1. Karlsson, Erik (3 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Is this fair for SEA fans? I figure it’s basically a likely late first and 2 2nds for an 8M Karlsson. If this deal is too much for Karlsson, would Jagger Firkus be more fair? As a sharks fan, I think it’s fair to get a 100 pt defenseman at 8M,even with his age, however, I’m obviously biased.
4.
SJS
  1. Mantha, Anthony
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
Pick is top 10 protected
WSH
  1. Barabanov, Alexander
  2. Gregor, Noah [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
5.
BOS
  1. Benning, Matthew
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (SJS)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $72 236 251 $25 000 $1 145 000 $11 263 749 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG
RFA - 3
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG
RFA - 2
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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3 360 000 $3 360 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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912 500 $912 500 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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29 juin 2023 à 18 h 40
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Wow. Absolutely not.
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29 juin 2023 à 18 h 48
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That is NEVER gonna happen
29 juin 2023 à 18 h 55
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I imagine TO would give more for Karlsson
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29 juin 2023 à 19 h 2
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PIT & BOS say no. Doubt we'd get a 2nd for taking on Petry. Also imagine SJ is on Petry's no list. BOS isn't going to give up Lysell for that much
WSH & TOR probably say yes? those seem fair. I imagine TOR will just buy Murray out, but time is running out
Hopefully SJ can get a bit more for Karlsson than that but I'd love to see him in SEA
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29 juin 2023 à 19 h 43
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
Wow. Absolutely not.


I’ve seen bruins fans shopping Lysell for cheaper… I thought that taking back a horrible contract in Mike Reilly, as well as a cheap and solid defenseman with Benning, and then a 4th rounder would be adequate. I can see that you don’t believe that it is
29 juin 2023 à 19 h 46
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Quoting: BURGHgirl
That is NEVER gonna happen


Why not? It is reported that PIT likes Kaapo, and wants to move Petry. This would let them shed about 4 million In cap for the next 2 years while providing a backup goalie. NYI just paid CHI a 2nd round pick today to takes Baileys 1 year 5 mil contract. Petry has a higher cap hit at two years. This if effectively a cap dump for PIT while getting a goalie back. The cap dump market has been set and it looks like SJS should get more than this for taking his awful contract.
29 juin 2023 à 19 h 48
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Quoting: RipNasty
I imagine TO would give more for Karlsson


I hope so, but, I think that this is being realistic. I really don’t think teams will pay more than this for him, even though he is worth far more in my opinion.
29 juin 2023 à 19 h 48
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Quoting: wi11dabeast
I’ve seen bruins fans shopping Lysell for cheaper… I thought that taking back a horrible contract in Mike Reilly, as well as a cheap and solid defenseman with Benning, and then a 4th rounder would be adequate. I can see that you don’t believe that it is


Lysell is an A tier already developed prospect, a second rounder instead of a 4th might get the deal done, but a first is more realistic
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29 juin 2023 à 19 h 52
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PIT & BOS say no. Doubt we'd get a 2nd for taking on Petry. Also imagine SJ is on Petry's no list. BOS isn't going to give up Lysell for that much
WSH & TOR probably say yes? those seem fair. I imagine TOR will just buy Murray out, but time is running out
Hopefully SJ can get a bit more for Karlsson than that but I'd love to see him in SEA


NYI paid CHI a 2nd rounder to take Bailey for 1 year at 5 mil, I figured that taking Petry for 2 years at 6.5 will get more than a 2nd round pick honestly, especially with throwing Kahkonen in (who PIT is interested in). That’s why I included the 2nd rounder. Also for BOS, I’ve seen some bruins fans shop lysell for cheap, I also know that they want to get rid of Mike Reilly, and get cheap contracts. I figured that this would be best for both teams as it would open up cap space and give them a better player at D for less and longer. If BOS values Lysell higher than I thought though I could totally see them denying this deal.

And for SEA, I think that Karlsson should deserve to be traded for more, however with his contract and age he won’t, even for retaining 14 Mil over 4 years. I think that this is a somewhat realistic package for him that both sides should I be interested.
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29 juin 2023 à 19 h 54
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Quoting: JackChambers
Lysell is an A tier already developed prospect, a second rounder instead of a 4th might get the deal done, but a first is more realistic


I see, I knew that he was a good prospect just not that good. If he is truly that good of a prospect then I could totally see BOS denying this deal
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29 juin 2023 à 19 h 58
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Quoting: wi11dabeast
Why not? It is reported that PIT likes Kaapo, and wants to move Petry. This would let them shed about 4 million In cap for the next 2 years while providing a backup goalie. NYI just paid CHI a 2nd round pick today to takes Baileys 1 year 5 mil contract. Petry has a higher cap hit at two years. This if effectively a cap dump for PIT while getting a goalie back. The cap dump market has been set and it looks like SJS should get more than this for taking his awful contract.


Petry didn't play bad. We just want to get younger if possible. Kaapo is a HUGE gamble and has a cap hit that can't be buried. No way would PGH give a 2nd that can become a 1st with one series win but also a 4th. Usually conditions are "if they reach the SCF" or "reach the ECF". Not if they win a round
29 juin 2023 à 20 h 19
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Quoting: BURGHgirl
Petry didn't play bad. We just want to get younger if possible. Kaapo is a HUGE gamble and has a cap hit that can't be buried. No way would PGH give a 2nd that can become a 1st with one series win but also a 4th. Usually conditions are "if they reach the SCF" or "reach the ECF". Not if they win a round


I agree that Kaapo is a huge gamble and that PIT should not go for him, however, apparently PIT has legit interest in him for some reason. I figured that because SJS could take 4 million off of PIT’s hands they could get a good or at least decent younger player in free agency, which would basically cost them only a 2nd rounder.
29 juin 2023 à 20 h 25
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Quoting: wi11dabeast
I agree that Kaapo is a huge gamble and that PIT should not go for him, however, apparently PIT has legit interest in him for some reason. I figured that because SJS could take 4 million off of PIT’s hands they could get a good or at least decent younger player in free agency, which would basically cost them only a 2nd rounder.


The "insider" who reported on the interest in Kaapo is considered by most in the burgh to be a buffoon, so I'd take it with a grain of salt. Haha
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Quoting: wi11dabeast
I hope so, but, I think that this is being realistic. I really don’t think teams will pay more than this for him, even though he is worth far more in my opinion.


You will have to take some cap back, but I think you can get more. I would give up Liljegren, a 1st and Niemala if you took Murray and Brodie as well. At 4 million retained. That's better than his no?
29 juin 2023 à 21 h 16
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I’ve seen bruins fans shopping Lysell for cheaper… I thought that taking back a horrible contract in Mike Reilly, as well as a cheap and solid defenseman with Benning, and then a 4th rounder would be adequate. I can see that you don’t believe that it is


I don't believe you've seen anyone on here giving Lysell away for nothing. If you have then they're even more delusional than you.
29 juin 2023 à 22 h 16
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
I don't believe you've seen anyone on here giving Lysell away for nothing. If you have then they're even more delusional than you.


Jesus Christ someone is salty because of a mock trade haha. I’m not just making up that I saw that, plus I already addressed this in another comment so go check it out. Plus, this isn’t giving him away for nothing, it’s getting a mid round pick back, a cheap contract, and a cap dump. It’s a reasonable amount of trade value and not much of a difference as you may seem (at least for what I thought Lysell was worth from other bruins fans). I’m making mock trades for fun guy, calm tf down haha
29 juin 2023 à 23 h 47
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Quoting: wi11dabeast
Jesus Christ someone is salty because of a mock trade haha. I’m not just making up that I saw that, plus I already addressed this in another comment so go check it out. Plus, this isn’t giving him away for nothing, it’s getting a mid round pick back, a cheap contract, and a cap dump. It’s a reasonable amount of trade value and not much of a difference as you may seem (at least for what I thought Lysell was worth from other bruins fans). I’m making mock trades for fun guy, calm tf down haha


I understand you're new here and don't comprehend how ACGMs work. You can have your fun without publishing. Once you put it out for public viewing you open yourself to critique. If you cannot handle the criticism then don't publish.
30 juin 2023 à 1 h 43
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
I understand you're new here and don't comprehend how ACGMs work. You can have your fun without publishing. Once you put it out for public viewing you open yourself to critique. If you cannot handle the criticism then don't publish.


Look at all my posts, comments, etc. I take critique and have actual conversations with people in the comments, I talked with 4 other people on this post and had actual good conversations where I feel like I learned something and maybe they did too. You’re the one coming onto my post and trying to be salty, I’m simply giving a thought and basing opinions off of other mock trades and my knowledge. Just because I haven’t posted almost 1200 times doesn’t mean I don’t know what I’m talking about. I’ll agree, I don’t know everything and probably frequently get trade values and stuff like that wrong, however, that’s literally every single person on ACGM. We all don’t have a full time job as a GM and are just coming on to give thoughts and ideas about a sport we love.
30 juin 2023 à 1 h 44
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
I understand you're new here and don't comprehend how ACGMs work. You can have your fun without publishing. Once you put it out for public viewing you open yourself to critique. If you cannot handle the criticism then don't publish.


I’ll handle good criticism and respond to it, like I did with yours, explains why I made the trade as I did. All you said to that is pretty much pointless bashing with no critique and no helpful advice
30 juin 2023 à 1 h 46
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Quoting: BURGHgirl
The "insider" who reported on the interest in Kaapo is considered by most in the burgh to be a buffoon, so I'd take it with a grain of salt. Haha

Okay haha, I can’t I actually didn’t know that, good to know. I really don’t keep up with my insiders other than the Sharks, and don’t know who’s credible, especially when I see someone repost it and don’t know who the original insider was
 
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