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Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 7 juin 2023
Publié: 7 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
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  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Mysak, Jan
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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875 000 $875 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
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7 juin 2023 à 23 h 7
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for the first in my life i may agree with windjammer. these offers makes no sense...
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7 juin 2023 à 23 h 10
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Quoting: drambui
for the first in my life i may agree with windjammer. these offers makes no sense...


When a player agent says he wont even sign his QO your cant ask for anything
7 juin 2023 à 23 h 11
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More likely deal is 2023 first Ylonen kidney Hoffman and the latest 2023 4th for Dubois and Vesalainen
7 juin 2023 à 23 h 51
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The Jets counter with 5oa, Suzuki, Caufield, and every cup the Habs won in the 70s
8 juin 2023 à 7 h 9
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Quoting: Howie
More likely deal is 2023 first Ylonen kidney Hoffman and the latest 2023 4th for Dubois and Vesalainen


That was the deal before yesterday news, game has changed
8 juin 2023 à 8 h 12
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When a player agent says he wont even sign his QO your cant ask for anything


yeah thats not how it work...
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8 juin 2023 à 8 h 16
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Jets are in a difficult position when it comes to PLD. They're not getting anything neaar market value from Montreal. So, anything more than whats been suggested here won't happen. There's always a chance another team will trade for him, but they'll need reassurances that he'll sign a long term deal. If they can't get that from Brisson, then they also won't pay market value.

Brisson has informed the team that PLD won't sign a contract with the Jets. So their options are to trade him, or have him sit out the year until he's a UFA and lose him for nothing.
8 juin 2023 à 8 h 36
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That was the deal before yesterday news, game has changed


Not really changed more solidified what was initially fair. Mysak a 2nd and Dvorak doesn't get it done lol
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 6
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yeah thats not how it work...


It's exactly how it works
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 9
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Jets are in a difficult position when it comes to PLD. They're not getting anything neaar market value from Montreal. So, anything more than whats been suggested here won't happen. There's always a chance another team will trade for him, but they'll need reassurances that he'll sign a long term deal. If they can't get that from Brisson, then they also won't pay market value.

Brisson has informed the team that PLD won't sign a contract with the Jets. So their options are to trade him, or have him sit out the year until he's a UFA and lose him for nothing.


Also a contender who want his services for a year can offer sheet him around 6.3M which is just over his 6M QO and if the jets match they cant trade him for a year and if they don't the compensation will be just a late 1st and a late 3rd
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 26
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There's nothing in it for Winnipeg. They'd trade him elsewhere for more.
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 29
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Quoting: Windjammer
There's nothing in it for Winnipeg. They'd trade him elsewhere for more.


GMs talk to agents and everyone is aware of the situation, they ain't offering more when a offer sheet will cost less
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 33
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GMs talk to agents and everyone is aware of the situation, they ain't offering more when a offer sheet will cost less


Possibly, but you're offering less than the OS amount, so they just trade him elsewhere for more. You'd be looking at the 1st, 2nd, 3rd compensation level to have a chance of it working. Which Winnipeg would probably be fine with.
8 juin 2023 à 11 h 45
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Quoting: Windjammer
Possibly, but you're offering less than the OS amount, so they just trade him elsewhere for more. You'd be looking at the 1st, 2nd, 3rd compensation level to have a chance of it working. Which Winnipeg would probably be fine with.


As i said if a team offers him up to $6,435,186 which is still more than his qualifying offer the compensation will be a 1st and a 3rd, and the rule is when you match you can't trade the player for a year which means he becomes a ufa at the end of the season while making more than his QO, and i don't think any contender will offer sheet him before talking to the agent... because he'll still do only 1 year and walk to free agency
8 juin 2023 à 11 h 53
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As i said if a team offers him up to $6,435,186 which is still more than his qualifying offer the compensation will be a 1st and a 3rd, and the rule is when you match you can't trade the player for a year which means he becomes a ufa at the end of the season while making more than his QO, and i don't think any contender will offer sheet him before talking to the agent... because he'll still do only 1 year and walk to free agency


He has no incentive to sign a 1 year lowball OS, it doesn't nothing for him but keep his salary low for another year, while risking injury and his agent would advise him not to sign it. Or, PLD would fire him if he advised him to sign it. Especially when he will get more going to arbitration and still get a 1 year contract.

He wants to sign and play long term somewhere, so those teams are likely the ones that his agent will work with the Jets on trying to find a trade to.
8 juin 2023 à 12 h 40
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Quoting: Windjammer
He has no incentive to sign a 1 year lowball OS, it doesn't nothing for him but keep his salary low for another year, while risking injury and his agent would advise him not to sign it. Or, PLD would fire him if he advised him to sign it. Especially when he will get more going to arbitration and still get a 1 year contract.

He wants to sign and play long term somewhere, so those teams are likely the ones that his agent will work with the Jets on trying to find a trade to.


Fair enough, but i do think the jets leverage got even lower since yesterday's news came out
 
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