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Other than Hronek

Créé par: Angusc
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 3 juin 2023
Publié: 6 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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VAN
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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VAN
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
Détails additionnels:
What are Casey and Henri's values?
BUF
  1. Podkolzin, Vasily
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
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6 juin 2023 à 2 h 26
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Sharks arent gonna do that. Why take another year on a bad contract for nothing plus no way MEV waives his NTC
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6 juin 2023 à 2 h 29
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Mittelstadt and Jokiharju really don't hold much value. Both will be NHL regulars next year but definitely not two core pieces for Buffalo's future. Remove one of the firsts and it's still a bad trade for Vancouver.
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6 juin 2023 à 2 h 38
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Quoting: flyersfan412
Mittelstadt and Jokiharju really don't hold much value. Both will be NHL regulars next year but definitely not two core pieces for Buffalo's future. Remove one of the firsts and it's still a bad trade for Vancouver.


A young center who scored 59 points is of no value? You're wrong.
6 juin 2023 à 2 h 55
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Quoting: Fjordy
A young center who scored 59 points is of no value? You're wrong.


I didn't at all say no value, I said not much. And by not much, I was talking about compares to the trade this guy made. Two firsts and a good prospect.
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6 juin 2023 à 3 h 20
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Quoting: flyersfan412
I didn't at all say no value, I said not much. And by not much, I was talking about compares to the trade this guy made. Two firsts and a good prospect.


Looking at this deal, probably yes. Jokiharju is basically not worth much, but Mitts for 1st NYI + Podkolzin looks fair. Podkolzin hasn't shown anything in the NHL yet.
6 juin 2023 à 3 h 22
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Quoting: Fjordy
Looking at this deal, probably yes. Jokiharju is basically not worth much, but Mitts for 1st NYI + Podkolzin looks fair. Podkolzin hasn't shown anything in the NHL yet.


You're right about Podkolzin but I wouldn't do him + a first for Casey.
6 juin 2023 à 3 h 24
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Quoting: flyersfan412
You're right about Podkolzin but I wouldn't do him + a first for Casey.


Well I wouldn't trade Mitts just for an mid first, he's good.
6 juin 2023 à 4 h 18
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Quoting: Fjordy
A young center who scored 59 points is of no value? You're wrong.


Doesn't cost the equivalent of 3 top 18 picks. Casey and Henri for our first alone at 11 would be ripe.
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6 juin 2023 à 4 h 18
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Quoting: flyersfan412
Mittelstadt and Jokiharju really don't hold much value. Both will be NHL regulars next year but definitely not two core pieces for Buffalo's future. Remove one of the firsts and it's still a bad trade for Vancouver.


Quoting: Wqrrior
Doesn't cost the equivalent of 3 top 18 picks. Casey and Henri for our first alone at 11 would be ripe.


I value the contracts by both making 5 million in total which is why I put in 2 1sts and Podkolzin who hasn't really lived up to my expectations as a top 10 pick. Also they're both 1st round picks with Casey getting 59 points this season and Joker having potential imo.

Now with having Hronek on the team, they'd have to overpay him next season, as well as Petey's.
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6 juin 2023 à 4 h 48
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Quoting: Fjordy
Well I wouldn't trade Mitts just for an mid first, he's good.


What about 2 1sts which includes ours alongside Pod or is that still an overpay?

Obviously this would be if Vancouver didn't get Hronek
6 juin 2023 à 5 h 6
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Quoting: Angusc
What about 2 1sts which includes ours alongside Pod or is that still an overpay?

Obviously this would be if Vancouver didn't get Hronek


This trade is an overpayment. Perhaps you are not quite right in evaluating Jokiharju.

Example: Jokiharju for Pod (maybe fair). Mitts for 1st NYI+ and this + not as big as 1st VAN this year.
6 juin 2023 à 5 h 14
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Quoting: Wqrrior
Doesn't cost the equivalent of 3 top 18 picks. Casey and Henri for our first alone at 11 would be ripe.


I agree it's overpayment
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6 juin 2023 à 6 h 54
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The Sabres trade is pretty bad for us.
Myers+6th for FC should be fair. If it's not, we should just keep him.
6 juin 2023 à 7 h 8
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Quoting: ChadBradson
Sharks arent gonna do that. Why take another year on a bad contract for nothing plus no way MEV waives his NTC


NMC
6 juin 2023 à 7 h 17
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Quoting: flyersfan412
Mittelstadt and Jokiharju really don't hold much value. Both will be NHL regulars next year but definitely not two core pieces for Buffalo's future. Remove one of the firsts and it's still a bad trade for Vancouver.


Yeah that's not true
6 juin 2023 à 7 h 19
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The Buffalo trade is fair value for Buffalo but I don't think it's what they are looking for. Casey is a 60 point utility forward and Joker is a 2nd or 3rd pair RD with both players totaling 5M. I suspect the Sabres are looking for hockey trades instead of first round picks. But the value is there for sure.
6 juin 2023 à 7 h 20
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Horrible for SJ, easy reject.
6 juin 2023 à 7 h 35
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Quoting: Fjordy
Looking at this deal, probably yes. Jokiharju is basically not worth much, but Mitts for 1st NYI + Podkolzin looks fair. Podkolzin hasn't shown anything in the NHL yet.


Right but this stems from Detroit paying the same they shipped out Hronek for, which i don't see happening.
6 juin 2023 à 11 h 7
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Kings accept; would prefer second.
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6 juin 2023 à 11 h 28
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I would accept that deal as the Los Angeles GM.

The Anaheim trade is for your 2024 third, not a 2023 pick, because the transaction has to occur in the summer, i.e., after the 2023 draft.
6 juin 2023 à 11 h 38
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3 years of Vlasic at $7 mil or 4 years of OEL at $8.25? Hmmm that’s a really hard decision……not
6 juin 2023 à 12 h 22
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If the Sabres are going to make a playoff push for 23-24 why are would they trade two decent pieces for draft picks?
6 juin 2023 à 18 h 28
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Quoting: Megalodon
NMC


Its a M-NTC (3 teams)
 
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