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Créé par: Chum_Beard
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 3 juin 2023
Publié: 3 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
64 900 000 $
55 250 000 $
44 250 000 $
11 000 000 $
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PIT
  1. Mantha, Anthony
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
WSH
  1. Granlund, Mikael
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
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NMC
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UFA - 1
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NMC
UFA - 3
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775 000 $775 000 $
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RFA - 1
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 1
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NMC
UFA - 1
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NMC
UFA - 1
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4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
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UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA
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3 juin 2023 à 20 h 11
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laugh Hellebuyck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DeSmith.

Bryan Rust isn't waiving his NMC for any Canadian team, Especially one heading for a rebuild.

Pickering meh. The 14th overall is the only decent piece in the whole trade.
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3 juin 2023 à 20 h 17
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WAYYYYYYYY too much to Win. Hellebuyck is worth an A prospect, a 3rd, and a backup goalie.

Lowry is worth maybe a 2nd.

Rust is worth at least a 2nd (I think more)

Pickering is a B+ prospect

The 23 1st is going to be an A prospect.

DeSmith is a good backup.

You massively overpaid
3 juin 2023 à 20 h 22
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Quoting: Victor24
WAYYYYYYYY too much to Win. Hellebuyck is worth an A prospect, a 3rd, and a backup goalie.

Lowry is worth maybe a 2nd.

Rust is worth at least a 2nd (I think more)

Pickering is a B+ prospect

The 23 1st is going to be an A prospect.

DeSmith is a good backup.

You massively overpaid



I agree it’s an overpay but I was considering two things:
1- Window to win now
2- Other teams have better prospects to offer
3 juin 2023 à 20 h 28
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Mantha and Granlund have similar enough value I think the Capitals won’t want the extra year on Granlund. I could see it if Granlund is going to be used at C and Kuznetsov is traded making the C Depth; Strome, Backstrom, Granlund but its just re-arranging deck chairs.
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3 juin 2023 à 20 h 31
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Quoting: Chum_Beard
I agree it’s an overpay but I was considering two things:
1- Window to win now
2- Other teams have better prospects to offer


Both fair points but a payment like that would make the Pens contenders this year and terrible in 3 years. Hence why Dubas would never do it.
3 juin 2023 à 20 h 42
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WAYYYYYYYY too much to Win. Hellebuyck is worth an A prospect, a 3rd, and a backup goalie.

Lowry is worth maybe a 2nd.

Rust is worth at least a 2nd (I think more)

Pickering is a B+ prospect

The 23 1st is going to be an A prospect.

DeSmith is a good backup.

You massively overpaid


First off Rust doesn't waive his NMC for Winnipeg, He's 31 making 5 x $5,125,000 you're not getting no 2nd for Rust. That contract will be bad before it's over.

Pickering is a 6'4" LHD that Winnipeg doesn't need, They need RHD not LHD.

And calling DeSmith a good backup is a royal joke, Detroit only lit him up for 12 goals this year. He's a less than average backup.

The 2023 1st round pick 14th overall is the only decent piece in the whole trade.
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3 juin 2023 à 21 h 58
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Quoting: MoSeider53
First off Rust doesn't waive his NMC for Winnipeg, He's 31 making 5 x $5,125,000 you're not getting no 2nd for Rust. That contract will be bad before it's over.

Pickering is a 6'4" LHD that Winnipeg doesn't need, They need RHD not LHD.

And calling DeSmith a good backup is a royal joke, Detroit only lit him up for 12 goals this year. He's a less than average backup.

The 2023 1st round pick 14th overall is the only decent piece in the whole trade.


Rust 5v5 had the 12th most expected goals in the NHL. He was bad on the PP but great on the PK and great 5v5. Nearly all of his advanced stats for the last 4 years have been fantastic. He is criminally under rated.

I would agree with the lack of need for Pickering

DeSmith had a WAR of 0.5, placing him 30th in the NHL.

Among guys with a comparable amount of games, he was better than: Demko, Luukkonen, Anderson, Talbot, Campbell, Thompson, Grubauer, Mrazek, Merslikens, and Quick.

The list of guys with better WAR in a comparable amount if games: Swayman, Copley, Samsonov, Korpisalso, Gustavsson, and Montembeault

By what metric was he not a fine backup goalie?
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4 juin 2023 à 23 h 58
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huge pass from washington
 
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