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If Toronto gets swept

Créé par: dls9
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 8 mai 2023
Publié: 8 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The Core must be blown up. Reference for Trade is the Florida - Tkachuk Trade.

2 of the 4 have to go.

Marner & Taveres Stay. This is because Marner is the best of the 4, two way Selke nominee & Toronto boy. Tavares has a NMC, unfortunately.

Nylander is at the peak of his trade value. In terms of value, I compare him to Kevin FIala last offseason. Fiala was moved for a mid round pick + a B+ prospect in Brock Faber. I try to make a comparable trade here.

Matthews. Compareable to the Tkachuk trade. Tkachuk was traded for Huberdeau (Average of last 2 seasons = 85 point Player in his late 20's), Weegar ( Top 4 D in his late 20's) and a First Round pick.

Leafs aren't done, as they aren't rebuilding. With 5 picks in the next 2 years, the Leafs plan to spend 2 of the 5 picks on draft selections (they need to start rebuilding their prospect pool). Therefore, 3 of the 5 picks will be used in trades to try to stay competitive after moving Nylander and Matthews

Overall:

Out: Matthews, Nylander, Boston's 2023 First, Holl, Murray

In: Slavin, Konecny, Miller, Pelletier, Teravainen

Returning FA's: Samsonov, O'Rielly, Accari. I thought all were fine.
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TOR
  1. Pelletier, Jakob
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Nylander, William
Détails additionnels:
I picked Calgary here. I don't think Calgary wants a full rebuild, and they speed it up here by sending the 16th overall pick + a B+ Prospect in Pelletier to Toronto for Nylander ( a calgary boy)
2.
TOR
  1. Slavin, Jaccob
  2. Teräväinen, Teuvo
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
CAR
  1. Matthews, Auston
Détails additionnels:
Matthews Extended by Carolina

I wonder if Carolina is a team that could be interested. Right know their top 2 C are Aho and Kotkaniemi. A Matthews-Aho 1-2 could be nasty.

Trying to compare to the Huberdeau-Weegar deal, Toronto gets a lower value Forward (Teravainen Weegar_).

I don't think Teravainen + Slavin = Huberdeau + Weegar, so to compensate Carolina sends another first.
3.
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
4.
PHI
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
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UFA - 2
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G
UFA - 1
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DG
NMC
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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G
RFA - 2
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DG
UFA - 1
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DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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DG
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8 mai 2023 à 13 h 30
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Philly probably says no
Leafs will laugh at the Matthews trade

I’m all for on that nylander trade. He’s got to go. Knies will easily replace nylander. New core 4

Trade Matt Murray of course or keep him whatever
Sammy is gonna get more money and woll is ur starter, he’s more than ready.
Don’t resign ZAR
Buying out Murray is dumb
Bring up steeves and holmberg. Or whoever is nhl ready from the marlies.

Knies-am34-marner
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I’d trade Lily tbh he hasn’t done much unless he proves himself in training camp and preseason then fine.

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Lily* if he’s good
8 mai 2023 à 13 h 42
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Dubas will double down and not do any of those trades. I'm pretty sure he will get his extension since the Leafs advanced a round
8 mai 2023 à 14 h 3
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Quoting: The_Ginger_Leaf
Philly probably says no
Leafs will laugh at the Matthews trade

I’m all for on that nylander trade. He’s got to go. Knies will easily replace nylander. New core 4

Trade Matt Murray of course or keep him whatever
Sammy is gonna get more money and woll is ur starter, he’s more than ready.
Don’t resign ZAR
Buying out Murray is dumb
Bring up steeves and holmberg. Or whoever is nhl ready from the marlies.

Knies-am34-marner
Jt-ROR-jarnkork
Steeves-kampf-Acciari
Laffy-holmberg-Mcmann

I’d trade Lily tbh he hasn’t done much unless he proves himself in training camp and preseason then fine.

McCabe-Brodie
Reilly-schenn
Gio-timmins
Lily* if he’s good


I think the trade (Matthews) is pretty comparable to the Tkachuk trade.

You have a (normalized 82 game average over last 3 years) 105 point player in Auston Matthews. Matthew Tkachuk is a 93 point player. Therefore, the value of Matthews (based only on this metric) is 13% more than Tkachuk. Matthews is better defensively, Tkachuk brings physicality and agitation. To me, these cancel.

So, I would expect the return for Matthews to be 13% higher than the return for Tkachuk. If I were to rank the value of players in this deal vs the Tkachuk deal , it goes

Huberdeau > Slavin > Teravainen > Weegar. Overall, Huberdeau + Weegar > Slavin + Teravainen. The difference is made up by a second first round pick. I don't think it's a "Laughable" deal
8 mai 2023 à 14 h 13
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canes would likely chase PLD to be the 2C for less than trade away a franchise LHD that they realistically dont have anyone in the pipeline to replace him.

now say you wanted a Necas and Pesce and the 23 1st, we could pull that off a lot easier.
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8 mai 2023 à 15 h 2
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Ah, good ol' Leafs Nation. It's a universe unto itself, ain't it?
8 mai 2023 à 17 h 36
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Flames Decline. That’s too much and they can’t afford Nylander

Tanev or Toffoli + Ruzicka or Vladar FOR Nylander
OR
Tanev + Toffoli + Ruzicka FOR Nylander + Liljegren
OR
Tanev + Dube FOR Nylander + Timmins
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