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Créé par: Hosiz
Équipe: 2023-24 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 30 avr. 2023
Publié: 30 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
11 025 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
63 000 000 $
1950 000 $
21 125 000 $
65 050 000 $
12 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYI
ANA
  1. Bailey, Josh
Détails additionnels:
Retires
2.
NYI
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
CHI
  1. Clutterbuck, Cal
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $83 425 833 $0 $0 $74 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 8
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9 150 000 $9 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 8
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 025 000 $1 025 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 150 000 $6 150 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
5 050 000 $5 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Islanders de New York
762 500 $762 500 $
AG
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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30 avr. 2023 à 21 h 4
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Hawks decline. Value is probably fair but they have like six 4th line guys under contract for next season already. And can't see Bailey walking away from $3.5m actual salary next season.
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30 avr. 2023 à 21 h 17
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Even if Bailey is retiring...why would Anaheim take the cap hit for nothing? Clutterbuck is 100% a cap dump to the Hawks because he simply is not needed. While he may still be a decent player probably even worth his 1.75 salary to someone, the Hawks are built to lose and are not going to be flipping meaningless picks for a guy that they can pay an AHL kid league minimum to play 4th line.
1 mai 2023 à 13 h 30
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
Hawks decline. Value is probably fair but they have like six 4th line guys under contract for next season already. And can't see Bailey walking away from $3.5m actual salary next season.


Was pretty much just a trade to anyone but boy would that be a bizarre decline for a team looking to enter a full on rebuild. Clutter probably doesn't even need an asset attached to him only having 1 year at 1.75mil so I'm not really sure why you're so sure they'd decline pretty much taking a 4th rounder for a 6th. As for Bailey - i think there is a very strong possibility that he's basically given the choice between being traded along with an asset to some bad team looking to hit the cap floor or retiring an islander and given some sort of hockey ops job within the organization. He has 1 year left and it would not shock me in the slightest if he decides that he doesn't want to uproot his family from LI and move away for a year and not remaining a member of the isles throughout the entirety of his career. He also has made over $50mil in his career to this point and would surely be getting a solid salary in a hockey ops salary from the organization (which they have recently done with Boychuk & Seidenberg).

Quoting: wojohawk
Even if Bailey is retiring...why would Anaheim take the cap hit for nothing? Clutterbuck is 100% a cap dump to the Hawks because he simply is not needed. While he may still be a decent player probably even worth his 1.75 salary to someone, the Hawks are built to lose and are not going to be flipping meaningless picks for a guy that they can pay an AHL kid league minimum to play 4th line.


Bailey to ducks was very clearly just to shed the salary and show he's retiring, not actually getting traded there just to retire. Saying the hawks won't need a guy like Clutter bc they can just have an ahl guy in that spot is a little interesting also. Teams that rebuild often like to bring in older vets who are respected in the locker room to help teach the young guys how to be pros - not to mention being able to possibly deal him at the deadline to a playoff team which won't happen with some random ahl guy who doesn't belong in the nhl.
1 mai 2023 à 14 h 15
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Was pretty much just a trade to anyone but boy would that be a bizarre decline for a team looking to enter a full on rebuild. Clutter probably doesn't even need an asset attached to him only having 1 year at 1.75mil so I'm not really sure why you're so sure they'd decline pretty much taking a 4th rounder for a 6th. As for Bailey - i think there is a very strong possibility that he's basically given the choice between being traded along with an asset to some bad team looking to hit the cap floor or retiring an islander and given some sort of hockey ops job within the organization. He has 1 year left and it would not shock me in the slightest if he decides that he doesn't want to uproot his family from LI and move away for a year and not remaining a member of the isles throughout the entirety of his career. He also has made over $50mil in his career to this point and would surely be getting a solid salary in a hockey ops salary from the organization (which they have recently done with Boychuk & Seidenberg).



Bailey to ducks was very clearly just to shed the salary and show he's retiring, not actually getting traded there just to retire. Saying the hawks won't need a guy like Clutter bc they can just have an ahl guy in that spot is a little interesting also. Teams that rebuild often like to bring in older vets who are respected in the locker room to help teach the young guys how to be pros - not to mention being able to possibly deal him at the deadline to a playoff team which won't happen with some random ahl guy who doesn't belong in the nhl.


But again why would the Ducks take the caphit to help the Isles "retire" Bailey who is not walking away from 3.5 million to retire to be nice to the Isles to begin with so this is all fantasy island stuff anyways. To move Bailey and his cap hit, you are paying someone (probably a 2nd round pick) to take his 5 million cap hit and to pay his 3.5 million in salary he will not simply walkaway from as his likely last big payday (I could see him rebounding on the Ducks, Hawks, or whereever he gets exiled to and hanging around on for league minimum for a few more seasons).

Hawks are at the point of the rebuild (almost completely torn down and just starting to build back up) where the objective is to suck to maximize draft position and I doubt many in this seasons lineup will be around when thing turn in 2 or 3 years. The kids that need vet mentorship will be in the AHL or juniors by in large. It is not as if the Hawks are devoid of vets that can lead at the NHL level with Seth Jones, Murphy, Tyler Johnson, Zaitsev, Dickinson on the roster. Clutter fits no purpose for the Hawks who are designed to suck to maximize their draft postion in the hopes of getting franchise altering elite talent that generally comes in the first few picks of the draft. Even if Clutter "leads" and is better than an AHL filler, the downside is he helps win an extra game or two along the way and instead of potentially drafting 1-3 you are drafting 4-6 and more likely ending up with a very good player and missing on the elite franchise cornerstone.
1 mai 2023 à 15 h 48
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Quoting: wojohawk
But again why would the Ducks take the caphit to help the Isles "retire" Bailey who is not walking away from 3.5 million to retire to be nice to the Isles to begin with so this is all fantasy island stuff anyways. To move Bailey and his cap hit, you are paying someone (probably a 2nd round pick) to take his 5 million cap hit and to pay his 3.5 million in salary he will not simply walkaway from as his likely last big payday (I could see him rebounding on the Ducks, Hawks, or whereever he gets exiled to and hanging around on for league minimum for a few more seasons).

Hawks are at the point of the rebuild (almost completely torn down and just starting to build back up) where the objective is to suck to maximize draft position and I doubt many in this seasons lineup will be around when thing turn in 2 or 3 years. The kids that need vet mentorship will be in the AHL or juniors by in large. It is not as if the Hawks are devoid of vets that can lead at the NHL level with Seth Jones, Murphy, Tyler Johnson, Zaitsev, Dickinson on the roster. Clutter fits no purpose for the Hawks who are designed to suck to maximize their draft postion in the hopes of getting franchise altering elite talent that generally comes in the first few picks of the draft. Even if Clutter "leads" and is better than an AHL filler, the downside is he helps win an extra game or two along the way and instead of potentially drafting 1-3 you are drafting 4-6 and more likely ending up with a very good player and missing on the elite franchise cornerstone.


Once again this was clearly just to show that he is retiring and i had to send him somewhere to get rid of the cap hit..........

As for you saying that bailey retiring is "fantasy island stuff" seems a bit exaggerated. As explained above, bailey has made over $50mil in his career and has his family deeply rooted here. He's been living on Long Island since he was 19 years old and even again today stated he will be living on Long Island for the rest of his life, even after his career is over. He also stated today that he always planned to play for only the Islanders & envisioned his last game in an Islanders jersey - so it doesn't seem too crazy to me if he's given the options of being shipped out to somewhere like Arizona to possibly not even play routinely there either or being waived and sent to Bridgeport for his last year - that he would definitely consider retirement.
 
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