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Créé par: deez
Publié: 25 avr. 2023 à 23 h 12
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 185/185 (100%)
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Logo de Flames de CalgaryFlames de Calgary

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Toffoli, TylerFlames de CalgaryLNH-4 250 000 $011---0000--
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Hagel, BrandonLightning de Tampa BayLNH-1 500 000 $011---0000--
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Initial250 000 $183469369
Variation2 750 000 $000010
Final3 000 000 $ (↑)18346937 (↑)9000

Logo de Lightning de Tampa BayLightning de Tampa Bay

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Hagel, BrandonLightning de Tampa BayLNH-1 500 000 $011---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Lightning de Tampa BayTBL)---010------
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Toffoli, TylerFlames de CalgaryLNH-4 250 000 $011---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 400 000 $1531681512
Variation-2 750 000 $0000-10
Final-1 350 000 $ (↓)15316814 (↓)12000
25 avr. 2023 à 23 h 23
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Toffoli is worth more than that IMO
26 avr. 2023 à 8 h 19
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Toffoli is worth more than that IMO


I feel the exact opposite. Hagel is younger, better and cheaper.
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26 avr. 2023 à 8 h 36
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I'd do it but the Lightning wouldn't.

Hagel is younger, cheaper, taller and probably better too. The only negative is we'd be losing a right shot (which we need more of) for a left shot.
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26 avr. 2023 à 9 h 34
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Toffoli is worth more than that IMO


Not sure about that. I think Calgary would need to add to get Hagel.
26 avr. 2023 à 14 h 20
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Hagel scored 4 less goals 5 less assists is 7 years younger an RFA and makes slightly more than 1/3 of what Tofolli does add 2 firsts and TB probably still says F*** No.
Edit: BTW Brandon Hagel was second to Mitch Marner in takeaways this year. This is a joke right?
26 avr. 2023 à 14 h 32
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Toffoli is worth more than that IMO


You usually have sound reasoning ,however you are wayyyyyyyyy off on this one. Hagel 24 yo 30-34-64 1.5 mil RFA Tofolli 31YO 34-39-73 4.25 mil You really think TB would add com on now be real.
26 avr. 2023 à 14 h 51
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Please please someone explain why TB considers this for more than a millisecond before saying no.
26 avr. 2023 à 16 h 14
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Please please someone explain why TB considers this for more than a millisecond before saying no.


Hagel played on a line with Point and Kucherov... Toffoli is more polished and would fit nice on the RW if they cant bring back Killorn. Hagel probably looking for term on his next deal that Tampa already has committed to other players and his next contract is going to be inflated because of who he plays with.
26 avr. 2023 à 16 h 20
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Hagel played on a line with Point and Kucherov... Toffoli is more polished and would fit nice on the RW if they cant bring back Killorn. Hagel probably looking for term on his next deal that Tampa already has committed to other players and his next contract is going to be inflated because of who he plays with.


According to Allan Walsh escrow will be paid by the first couple weeks into the season. So after next year expect at least a 3-4 million dollar cap raise. Hagel Is 7 years younger better defensively as good offensively has a non-stop motor plays all situations. And is a RFA after next season still . Add 2 firsts maybe TB does that. TB gave up 2firsts a30 goal scorer and a solid 4th liner to get him this is a hysterically insulting offer. So Hagels 20 goal season with Chicago means nothing? Oy vie
26 avr. 2023 à 16 h 44
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According to Allan Walsh escrow will be paid by the first couple weeks into the season. So after next year expect at least a 3-4 million dollar cap raise. Hagel Is 7 years younger better defensively as good offensively has a non-stop motor plays all situations. And is a RFA after next season still . Add 2 firsts maybe TB does that. TB gave up 2firsts a30 goal scorer and a solid 4th liner to get him this is a hysterically insulting offer. So Hagels 20 goal season with Chicago means nothing? Oy vie


They actually traded two firsts that were two drafts out and two maybe B level prospects who are both tied to the 2018 hockey canada scandal. But that doesnt matter. If they dont have an appetite for Hagel's next contract, Toffoli is a legit player, who was also traded for a 1st, 5th, B prospect, and proven NHL bottom 6 player. Similar returns.
26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 19
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They actually traded two firsts that were two drafts out and two maybe B level prospects who are both tied to the 2018 hockey canada scandal. But that doesnt matter. If they dont have an appetite for Hagel's next contract, Toffoli is a legit player, who was also traded for a 1st, 5th, B prospect, and proven NHL bottom 6 player. Similar returns.


Taylor Raddysh scored 20 goals this year so yes a 20 goal scorer . Tofolli is also 7 years older and an UFA after next season while Hagel is an RFA with the cap is going way up so they will have the space to sign him. Easy NO. KEEP TOFOLLI it was Raddysh, Katchouk and 2 firsts
30 avr. 2023 à 10 h 39
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This is a steal for the flames. You get BRANDON HAGEL and a 3rd
30 avr. 2023 à 10 h 41
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I feel the exact opposite. Hagel is younger, better and cheaper.


Agreed
30 avr. 2023 à 19 h 58
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there isnt a universe where this is accepted by TB. should report it tbh. horrible.
 
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