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Goalie

Créé par: CRC
Publié: 18 avr. 2023 à 21 h 27
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 42/185 (23%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

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DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Swayman, JeremyBruins de BostonLNH-925 000 $011-------0.020.001
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Pinto, ShaneExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-925 000 $011---82201535--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial3 160 833 $2649721210
Variation0 $000010
Final3 160 833 $26497213 (↑)10201535

Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaSénateurs d'Ottawa

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Pinto, ShaneExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-210 000 $011---82201535--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Swayman, JeremyBruins de BostonLNH-210 000 $011-------0.020.001
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial3 253 353 $2346682313
Variation0 $0000-10
Final3 253 353 $23466822 (↓)13-20-15-35
18 avr. 2023 à 22 h 29
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The trade doesn't make sense for OTT. Swayman will be looking for a big raise and with Norris coming back to the Sens next year, they will have to wait out on signing Swayman. If they choose to trade DeBrincat, they may look to instead resign Brännström and keep Talbot. I don't think that OTT would give up Pinto either.
19 avr. 2023 à 8 h 21
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Ya bruins aren’t moving swayman. You’d have better luck with ullmark.
19 avr. 2023 à 9 h 44
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Pinto has more value than swayman, OTT passes
19 avr. 2023 à 12 h 46
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Pinto has more value than swayman, OTT passes


Swayman numbers over the last 3 years are top 10 among all goalies. Shane Pinto put up 35pts playing 15:59 a night. We had Trent Frederic put up 31pts playing 4 less minutes a night.
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19 avr. 2023 à 13 h 54
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Swayman numbers over the last 3 years are top 10 among all goalies. Shane Pinto put up 35pts playing 15:59 a night. We had Trent Frederic put up 31pts playing 4 less minutes a night.


G have a fraction of the value of other positions. take out Pinto and it would be a fair deal
19 avr. 2023 à 14 h 57
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G have a fraction of the value of other positions. take out Pinto and it would be a fair deal


Its funny that goaltending has a fraction of the value, but if you look at the playoffs teams this year, 13 of the 16 were Top 15 in SV% this year. Of the Top 10 teams in SV% only 1 of them didn't make the playoffs. I look at Ottawa and they finished 7pts out of a playoff spot and were ranked 20th in SV% on the season. Looking at OTT's 3 main goalies this season (min 15gp):

Forsberg: -1.76 GSAA
Talbot: -5.46 GSAA
Sogaard: -7.82 GSAA

Maybe, just maybe goaltending is undervalue in the NHL. If you look at previous 10-12 Stanley Cup winners, many had very good goaltending.
21 avr. 2023 à 16 h 50
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Pinto has more value than swayman, OTT passes


Surely you jest. Swayman has been a top five goalie in the league this year. Pinto is, kind of a nice upside guy that’s pretty unproven.
21 avr. 2023 à 17 h 2
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Surely you jest. Swayman has been a top five goalie in the league this year. Pinto is, kind of a nice upside guy that’s pretty unproven.


G have a fraction of the value of other position and swayman is a back up, no team is gonna gamble top assets for him
21 avr. 2023 à 17 h 23
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G have a fraction of the value of other position and swayman is a back up, no team is gonna gamble top assets for him


So then why would the bruins trade him?
21 avr. 2023 à 17 h 29
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So then why would the bruins trade him?


if they cannot keep him do to cap circumstance they would try and trade him
21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 30
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if they cannot keep him do to cap circumstance they would try and trade him


You realize there are 31 teams the bruins can trade with, right?

They move ullmark before swayman. This just is so far away from any realistic realm.
 
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