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Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 16 mars 2023
Publié: 16 mars 2023
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
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Détails additionnels:
#10 for #16, #20 and #48
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (STL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (STL)
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
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#17 for #27, #29, #72 and next years 2nd
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16 mars 2023 à 23 h 18
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Nashville will keep their picks ty
16 mars 2023 à 23 h 22
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Hahahaha what??? That's obviously gonna be a pass.
17 mars 2023 à 0 h 13
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Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer
Nashville will keep their picks ty


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Hahahaha what??? That's obviously gonna be a pass.


I guess some people don't recognize good value when they see it
17 mars 2023 à 0 h 29
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I guess some people don't recognize good value when they see it


moving 3 pretty decent draft picks in a stacked class just to move up 6 spots..?

did you fall and hit your head?
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17 mars 2023 à 0 h 32
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I guess some people don't recognize good value when they see it


You'd be asking way too much in a normal draft year. In this particular draft year, you're asking for a fleece deluxe. Just for starters, the difference between 17 and 27 is minimal.
17 mars 2023 à 0 h 53
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Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer
moving 3 pretty decent draft picks in a stacked class just to move up 6 spots..?

did you fall and hit your head?


Quoting: mokumboi
You'd be asking way too much in a normal draft year. In this particular draft year, you're asking for a fleece deluxe. Just for starters, the difference between 17 and 27 is minimal.


Quality over quantity
17 mars 2023 à 0 h 59
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Quoting: Bannedforlife
Quality over quantity


I'd rather draft Reinbacher at 16, while just keeping the 20 and 48 picks.

No idea what you're on about here
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 2
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Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer
I'd rather draft Reinbacher at 16, while just keeping the 20 and 48 picks.

No idea what you're on about here


Thats why you need to trade up, otherwise we're taking Reinbacher at 10
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 5
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Thats why you need to trade up, otherwise we're taking Reinbacher at 10


Then we'll take somebody else? tears of joy

Log off man
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 21
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Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer
Then we'll take somebody else? tears of joy

Log off man


You'll never get the player you want with that attitude
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 26
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good god these trades are bad
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 31
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good god these trades are bad


Bad for Detroit? Maybe a bit, but I would be OK with them
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 33
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Bad for Detroit? Maybe a bit, but I would be OK with them


no, bad for nashville and st. louis. can't tell if you're genuinely trolling these replies but these trades are god awful. big homer takes here.
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 37
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Quoting: PhilsWeiner
no, bad for nashville and st. louis. can't tell if you're genuinely trolling these replies but these trades are god awful. big homer takes here.


It's not cheap trading into the top 10, especially in a draft like this. Multiple elite talents at the top here.
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 39
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It's not cheap trading into the top 10, especially in a draft like this. Multiple elite talents at the top here.


there is elite talent scattered across the first round. why does it make sense to you for nashville to move their 20OA and 48OA picks just to move up 6 spots?
same concept with the st. louis trade.

i'm not even trying to be a clown here but these are terrible proposals. might wanna re-think your strategy.
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 42
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Quoting: PhilsWeiner
there is elite talent scattered across the first round. why does it make sense to you for nashville to move their 20OA and 48OA picks just to move up 6 spots?
same concept with the st. louis trade.

i'm not even trying to be a clown here but these are terrible proposals. might wanna re-think your strategy.


Fine. You tell me what you think the #10 pick is worth and then I'll show you a horrible trade
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 48
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Fine. You tell me what you think the #10 pick is worth and then I'll show you a horrible trade


it's not about what the 10OA is worth.. you've somehow missed the point entirely.

it's about need for the picks. both nashville and st. louis aren't moving as many assets (in an already stacked class) as youve proposed just to move up a few spots? there's no need for either team to overpay for this.

even then, if detroit desperately wanted reinbacher, why would they move the 10OA just to not get him? you've essentially contradicted your entire point. you had nashville move up to 10OA... just to not take reinbacher? do you not think if nashville or st. louis had that pick they wouldnt take him? i don't get your point here.

TLDR; these trades suck. try again
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 51
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it's not about what the 10OA is worth.. you've somehow missed the point entirely.

it's about need for the picks. both nashville and st. louis aren't moving as many assets (in an already stacked class) as youve proposed just to move up a few spots? there's no need for either team to overpay for this.

even then, if detroit desperately wanted reinbacher, why would they move the 10OA just to not get him? you've essentially contradicted your entire point. you had nashville move up to 10OA... just to not take reinbacher? do you not think if nashville or st. louis had that pick they wouldnt take him? i don't get your point here.

TLDR; these trades suck. try again


You didn't answer the question. You tell me what a fair value trade for #10 looks like.
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 52
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You didn't answer the question. You tell me what a fair value trade for #10 looks like.


i'm not answering your question because the value of the pick was never the debate.

when there are multiple people in this thread all parroting the same point you might need to reconsider the acgm
17 mars 2023 à 1 h 57
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Quoting: PhilsWeiner
i'm not answering your question because the value of the pick was never the debate.

when there are multiple people in this thread all parroting the same point you might need to reconsider the acgm


You won't answer because you know my proposal is fair value. If you don't want to pony up the assets youre entitled to your opinion, but don't come in here and s*** on my acgm just because you don't like it.

When an unbiased fan weighs in and tells me I'm crazy, then I'll reconsider
17 mars 2023 à 2 h 0
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You won't answer because you know my proposal is fair value. If you don't want to pony up the assets youre entitled to your opinion, but don't come in here and s*** on my acgm just because you don't like it.

When an unbiased fan weighs in and tells me I'm crazy, then I'll reconsider


If you want somebody to acquire the 10OA pick, you're looking for something of equal value in return. Like a genuine top 6 player or top 4 D, or a prospect of equal value.

Nashville giving you two extra picks in this class just to move up 6 spots isn't bias, nor fair, it's a fleece for Detroit. And of course, as a Detroit fan, you'd propose the trade.
You calling everyone else bias is merely a projection.

I agree with EKL, you should log off.
17 mars 2023 à 2 h 3
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You won't answer because you know my proposal is fair value. If you don't want to pony up the assets youre entitled to your opinion, but don't come in here and s*** on my acgm just because you don't like it.

When an unbiased fan weighs in and tells me I'm crazy, then I'll reconsider


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If you want somebody to acquire the 10OA pick, you're looking for something of equal value in return. Like a genuine top 6 player or top 4 D, or a prospect of equal value.

Nashville giving you two extra picks in this class just to move up 6 spots isn't bias, nor fair, it's a fleece for Detroit. And of course, as a Detroit fan, you'd propose the trade.
You calling everyone else bias is merely a projection.

I agree with EKL, you should log off.


"If you don't want to pony up the assets"
To what, move up a couple spots?

Delusional doesn't even begin to describe this guy lmao.
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17 mars 2023 à 2 h 6
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Quoting: PhilsWeiner
If you want somebody to acquire the 10OA pick, you're looking for something of equal value in return. Like a genuine top 6 player or top 4 D, or a prospect of equal value.

Nashville giving you two extra picks in this class just to move up 6 spots isn't bias, nor fair, it's a fleece for Detroit. And of course, as a Detroit fan, you'd propose the trade.
You calling everyone else bias is merely a projection.

I agree with EKL, you should log off.


Hronek is a genuine top 4 RHD and he just went for #17 and #40. A top 10 pick in a once in a decade draft would be worth significantly more. Try again.
17 mars 2023 à 2 h 8
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Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer
"If you don't want to pony up the assets"
To what, move up a couple spots?

Delusional doesn't even begin to describe this guy lmao.


The reality is that you guys don't want to give up your 1sts unless you're the one doing the fleecing. Detroit is giving up the premium asset here, and it comes with a steep price.
17 mars 2023 à 2 h 10
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Hronek is a genuine top 4 RHD and he just went for #17 and #40. A top 10 pick in a once in a decade draft would be worth significantly more. Try again.


the difference between the 10 and 16 pick is Oliver Moore and David Reinbacher.

notice how there isn't much of a quality difference there?

we'll keep our picks, and in the meantime, brush up on the draft a bit
 
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