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Créé par: SaskCanesFan

Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline

Date de création initiale: 20 févr. 2023

Publié: 20 févr. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Looking forward to next season, with the Canes acquiring Meier at this upcoming deadline for a Cup run. I've seen a wide range of returns for Meier, this one falls somewhere in the middle based on a few factors. I have the trade happening without an extension in place, which seems to be more of a sticking point for New Jersey than it is for the Canes. Also no salary retention on Meier for this season and no money tied up going the other way. Reports seem to indicate that Nikishin is not available, so I included the Canes other top D prospect Morrow. I could see SJ pushing for the Canes '24 1st instead of Philly's 2nd, ideally there's only a ~10 pick difference between the two. Canes would have to negotiate an extension after the season, but most players seem to like it once they're here and I think the extension figure is fair.

I have the Canes bringing back Pacioretty based on some recent comments from the owner. Due to consecutive achilles injuries I have him on a one year prove it deal. Otherwise the Canes could look elsewhere for that spot, with $4-5 million or so there should be some pretty decent options. Given where Jordan Staal is in his career and coming off the end of a 10 year contract, I can see him signing a shorter term deal for a little less $ to stay with the Canes. I'd like to upgrade the 3rd D pair, without signing DeHaan there's a little over $2.5 million available on that spot but I didn't spend a ton of time looking for a specific name so just plugged him back in. Things will get very tight after the 2024 season so hopefully two playoff runs with Meier in the fold before the $ crunch will be worth it.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Meier, Timo		7	8 750 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Andersen, Frederik	2	4 250 000 $
Fast, Jesper	2	2 500 000 $
Staal, Jordan	2	5 000 000 $
Pacioretty, Max	1	4 500 000 $
De Haan, Calvin	1	900 000 $

Transactions

CAR

Meier, Timo [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

Deadline deal without previous extension

SJS

Gunler, Noel
Morrow, Scott [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20	83 500 000 $	81 854 417 $	450 000 $	500 000 $	1 645 583 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Teräväinen, Teuvo 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Aho, Sebastian 8 460 250 $8 460 250 $ C UFA - 1	Meier, Timo 8 750 000 $8 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8
Svechnikov, Andrei 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 6	Necas, Martin 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AD RFA - 1	Jarvis, Seth 894 167 $894 167 $ (500 000 $$500K) AD RFA - 1
Pacioretty, Max 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Staal, Jordan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C, AG UFA - 4	Fast, Jesper 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Martinook, Jordan 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi 4 820 000 $4 820 000 $ C UFA - 7	Noesen, Stefan 762 500 $762 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Slavin, Jaccob 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Burns, Brent 5 280 000 $5 280 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersen, Frederik 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ G UFA - 2
Skjei, Brady 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Pesce, Brett 4 025 000 $4 025 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Kochetkov, Pyotr 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 4
De Haan, Calvin 900 000 $900 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Chatfield, Jalen 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

20 févr. 2023 à 18 h 15

NHLfan10506

Rejoint: mai 2019

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Very reasonable deal I think.

I had suggested Morrow, Blake, 1st, 3rd...so this is pretty close to that.

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20 févr. 2023 à 18 h 23

nintendofan721

Rejoint: juin 2021

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I don’t think Pacioretty is ever going to play again sadly.

20 févr. 2023 à 19 h 24

papishark

Rejoint: août 2019

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Maybe Drury for Gunler?

Idk most of your guys seem interchangeable but this is a good basis for a deal.

I actually think the Philly second will be more perfered because Greier wants 2023 firsts, and its not too far away from being one.

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20 févr. 2023 à 20 h 3

Faeyla

Existing

Rejoint: févr. 2022

Messages: 106

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That's way too much for Patches if he wants to play again.

I can see the Canes giving him something like 1-1.5 at most if he comes back during the middle of the season. They're 100% in to re-signing him for next season if he wants to play.

I could see Staal taking something like 3 million for 2-3 years to end his career here. No need to give him that much.

20 févr. 2023 à 20 h 17

Blacktown

Torresing

Rejoint: déc. 2022

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Sharks should definitely accept. Great deal.

20 févr. 2023 à 20 h 20

SaskCanesFan

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: mars 2019

Messages: 52

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Quoting: nintendofan721

I don’t think Pacioretty is ever going to play again sadly.

That may be true. Pretty brutal what's happened to him sadly, it'll probably be into the offseason before there's much clarity on his chances of fully healing and for him to make a decision. More just wanted to highlight the flexibility that exists in that spot with ~$5M available to fill it. There will be other good options I'm sure.

Quoting: Faeyla

You may be right. I don't think anyone can reasonably say what the prognosis or timeline for Pacioretty will be right now, but if he gets a clean bill of health and is motivated to play I didn't want to look like I was lowballing him. Same with Staal, I originally had him in the $3-4M range as that wouldn't surprise me. But its easy to undervalue contracts when doing a mock like this to make the job seem easy, I wanted to see how even in more of a worst case scenario the cap still works and there is room to add/improve. Depending on what happens with Patches, I also like a guy like Tomas Tatar for that spot at a similar $ figure, so you could stick his name there if you prefer.

20 févr. 2023 à 20 h 26

SaskCanesFan

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Rejoint: mars 2019

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Quoting: papishark

Yeah I debated between Drury, Gunler, Suzuki, etc. I could see a variation on the deal but I think the basis is close.

Drury I see as more of a higher floor bottom 6 guy that I think the Canes might value to fill out the bottom of their lineup at a low cost soon as the roster flirts with the cap. Gunler I think has more upside as a scorer but also more risk, so depends on where the Sharks priorities are at. I can see some back and forth over that kind of discussion but shouldn't be enough to hold up a deal.

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20 févr. 2023 à 21 h 28

papishark

Rejoint: août 2019

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Quoting: SaskCanesFan

No it shouldnt. The only hold up here is Morrow. Hes had a down year and Im not sure hes a Grier type player.

It really depends on the sharks internal evaluation of him.

22 févr. 2023 à 10 h 37

DarthCane

Rejoint: avr. 2018

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I think something like this makes a ton of sense for both teams, but price only works if Canes are able to extend Meier. Maybe the 2nd pick is conditional to Meier signing?

Canes have a window and need a move like this now and someone who'll at least be back next season. A big additional long term contract though will likely mean that the Canes won't be able to sign extension to somebody among Pesce, Skjei, Turbo, Jarvis, or Necas.

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