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TSN trade

Créé par: Jets12Kozy
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 7 févr. 2023
Publié: 7 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
TOR
  1. Karlsson, Erik (3 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Meier, Timo (3 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Reimer, James
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $77 373 880 $212 500 $0 $5 126 120 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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0 $0 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 2
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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827 500 $827 500 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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840 630 $840 630 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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7 févr. 2023 à 5 h 27
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leaf fan no thanks
7 févr. 2023 à 5 h 29
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Defensive pairings I'd do with thet lineup is:

Brodie - Karlsson
Rielly - Liljegren
Gio - Holl

Scratch Sandin (I just think Gio paired with Holl is a lot better in playoff hockey than Sandin - Holl)

That way you have a very strong 1st pairing, but aren't making it 100% offensive with a massive defensive hole on your first pairing,

Lilly has shown he can work with Rielly and make up for some of his mistakes. Pushing them to the 2nd pairing it takes a bit of pressure and minutes off of them.

Then Gio Holl is your bigger defensive pairing.

Also, 3rd line should be Kerfoot - Holmberg - Jarnkork with this lineup, and 4th line as ZAR - Kampf - Simmonds if you are playing Simmonds and Holmberg.

Kampf doesn't have an offensive side to him, so why pair Kerfoot who although he seems to have forgotten how to shoot, is on the lineup for offensive? So pair Kerfoot and Jarnkork who at least can put it in the net and Holmberg has some form of the offensive edge over Kampf.

But wow is that a massive hit to the 2nd line going from having either Nylander or Marner with JT to having Bunting and Engvall...
GMBL a aimé ceci.
7 févr. 2023 à 6 h 10
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Hahahaha no
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7 févr. 2023 à 7 h 12
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Seems like a video game trade. Not realistic. Like SJ retaining 3 mil AAV for another 4.5 years on Karlsson.
7 févr. 2023 à 8 h 8
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Quoting: JMEW
Defensive pairings I'd do with thet lineup is:

Brodie - Karlsson
Rielly - Liljegren
Gio - Holl

Scratch Sandin (I just think Gio paired with Holl is a lot better in playoff hockey than Sandin - Holl)

That way you have a very strong 1st pairing, but aren't making it 100% offensive with a massive defensive hole on your first pairing,

Lilly has shown he can work with Rielly and make up for some of his mistakes. Pushing them to the 2nd pairing it takes a bit of pressure and minutes off of them.

Then Gio Holl is your bigger defensive pairing.

Also, 3rd line should be Kerfoot - Holmberg - Jarnkork with this lineup, and 4th line as ZAR - Kampf - Simmonds if you are playing Simmonds and Holmberg.

Kampf doesn't have an offensive side to him, so why pair Kerfoot who although he seems to have forgotten how to shoot, is on the lineup for offensive? So pair Kerfoot and Jarnkork who at least can put it in the net and Holmberg has some form of the offensive edge over Kampf.

But wow is that a massive hit to the 2nd line going from having either Nylander or Marner with JT to having Bunting and Engvall...


If going with that lineup, I would move Kerfoot to the right wing of that 2nd line. Still a big drop off.
7 févr. 2023 à 9 h 7
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Hahahaha no


What do you mean??? we are just sharks (hockey in CA bad) and should absolutely give away our 2 best players for a bunch of things that dont fit organizational needs while creating a terrible dead cap situation because it is for the leafs (old hockey franchise we should be lucky to do trade with)
7 févr. 2023 à 10 h 15
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TSN really didn't put too much thought into this, this would likely be a terrible trade for both sides. They really want Dubas to make a desperation move and Grier to lack the patience on making reasonable deals.

Toronto:
Pros:
-Get two elite players for one for one playoff run
-Get Meier for a 2025 1st+Niemela+Minten and could probably get a 2023/24 1st+a B-prospect for him at the draft

Cons:
-Essentially are trading Nylander for Karlsson (who is a luxury) and will probably be worse off than the Hall for Larsson trade which didn't pan out for EDM in the short-term and was arguably a lose-lose trade for both sides in the long run.
-Will have 2 holes in the top 6 instead of one next season.

San Jose:
Cons:
-Retaining an extra million on Karlsson for no gain
-Trading Karlsson for Minten, Niemela, 2025 1st. Not bad in terms of prospects, but neither are great for the pick to be so distant.
-If SJ trades Nylander in the following season, they might get less out of him than they could from Meier considering Nylander would have a 10-team no-trade list.

Pros:
-Trading Meier for Nylander if they trade Nylander now. This is a potential pro (that could turn into a con) that depends on the offers for Meier from teams like NJ and Buf, who would be able to extend him. The frontrunners for Nylander would be the contenders who have some interest in adding Meier as a rental. Teams like NJ and Buf could be interested but they likely would offer something similar or less to what they are offering for Meier since they would have no idea what Nylander wants in terms of an extension. SJ will have used up all their retention slots on Burns, Karlsson, and Meier, so the return on Nylander could be diluted by bringing in a 3rd team to retain his ~7m AAV for 2 years. If Boston or Tampa (although they probably don't have as much in assets to offer) can find a way to fit him then that would be a major con for the Leafs.

Conclusion: This trade is set up for a lose-lose situation unless the Leafs end up winning the cup.
7 févr. 2023 à 15 h 58
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Everyone who thinkss this is a legit trade stop watching TSN
 
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