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Captns Last Dance

Créé par: MasterPat
Publié: 31 janv. 2023 à 14 h 54
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 72/185 (39%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Bruins de BostonBruins de Boston

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Smith, CraigBruins de BostonLNH-3 100 000 $011---36369--
DeBrusk, JakeBruins de BostonLTIR-4 000 000 $011---36161430--
Grzelcyk, MattBruins de BostonLNH-3 687 500 $011---4631518--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Bruins de BostonBOS)---100------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Bruins de BostonBOS)---010------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Bruins de BostonBOS)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
O'Reilly, RyanBlues de St-LouisIR50%3 750 000 $011---3710616--
Tarasenko, VladimirBlues de St-LouisLNH50%3 750 000 $011---38101929--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial2 485 833 $2347703412
Variation-712 500 $-1-1-1-2-10
Final1 773 333 $ (↓)22 (↓)46 (↓)69 (↓)1 (↓)3 (↓)12-2-10-12

Logo de Blues de St-LouisBlues de St-Louis

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
O'Reilly, RyanBlues de St-LouisIR50%3 750 000 $011---3710616--
Tarasenko, VladimirBlues de St-LouisLNH50%3 750 000 $011---38101929--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Smith, CraigBruins de BostonLNH-3 100 000 $011---36369--
DeBrusk, JakeBruins de BostonLTIR-4 000 000 $011---36161430--
Grzelcyk, MattBruins de BostonLNH-3 687 500 $011---4631518--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Bruins de BostonBOS)---100------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Bruins de BostonBOS)---010------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Bruins de BostonBOS)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 857 500 $2148643512
Variation712 500 $111210
Final2 570 000 $ (↑)22 (↑)49 (↑)65 (↑)5 (↑)6 (↑)1221012
31 janv. 2023 à 14 h 57
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So the bruins get way way way worse and sacrifice two first round picks? Ahhhhh montreal fan. Got it.
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31 janv. 2023 à 14 h 58
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In the case Ryan O'Reilly sign a 4-5 years deal with Boston.
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 4
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Hmm. Quick question... what else can you put in there instead of Gryz? Or Gryz and the 3rd?
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 9
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Listen Kid, winning a Stanley Cup ins't EZ so you must sacriface some futur when it's time. Boston has an amazing year and will probably do everything possible to get into the Stanley Cup Final. Also, Bo Horvat gone let less good asset on the trade market. Let's just hope O'Reilly will be back soon (IR. Expected to be out until at least Feb 14).
And All of that from a Habs Fan who can reconize a good Team even if it's Boston.
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 10
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Quoting: mokumboi
Hmm. Quick question... what else can you put in there instead of Gryz? Or Gryz and the 3rd?


Boston needs to put some Salary Cap to make this happen ...
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 20
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Boston needs to put some Salary Cap to make this happen ...


How much? Does Nosek work?
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 25
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How much? Does Nosek work?


Half way ... a 3rd party could help by taking an extra 50% on the 50% retain by STL but it will coast more to Boston. Salary Cap is a **** for everybody these days.
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 29
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Half way ... a 3rd party could help by taking an extra 50% on the 50% retain by STL but it will coast more to Boston. Salary Cap is a **** for everybody these days.


Okay, well, it's certainly one that would make them think, but in the end would probably see them pass. Debrusk is what makes this a tough call, he's a total Blues winger type.
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 30
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Quoting: mokumboi
Hmm. Quick question... what else can you put in there instead of Gryz? Or Gryz and the 3rd?


Are you kidding?
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 31
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Half way ... a 3rd party could help by taking an extra 50% on the 50% retain by STL but it will coast more to Boston. Salary Cap is a **** for everybody these days.

This is already a ridiculous overpay that just makes the bruins so much worse. You’re actively tearing apart the team.
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 31
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Are you kidding?


No, why? What's the rub?
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 33
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Quoting: MasterPat
Listen Kid, winning a Stanley Cup ins't EZ so you must sacriface some futur when it's time. Boston has an amazing year and will probably do everything possible to get into the Stanley Cup Final. Also, Bo Horvat gone let less good asset on the trade market. Let's just hope O'Reilly will be back soon (IR. Expected to be out until at least Feb 14).
And All of that from a Habs Fan who can reconize a good Team even if it's Boston.

Was this directed at me? If so, the quote function is very helpful.

You’re right, winning the stanley cup isn’t, “EZ.” This makes it harder because the team gets worse. Much much much worse.

The bruins don’t need a center. They do need their top line winger which you’re trading away. They also need McAvoys D partner which you’re also trading away. Just look at their roster man…or kid…or whatever. They don’t need anything here that they’re trading for, they desperately need the things that you’re trading away, and on top of that they sacrifice massive trade chips in two first round picks.

It’s just a horrible idea.
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 33
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No, why? What's the rub?

This is such a home run for St. Louis they wouldn’t quibble about anything. High fives in the front office, yes please. No take backs.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
This is already a ridiculous overpay that just makes the bruins so much worse. You’re actively tearing apart the team.


Best I can do is to replace the 3rd by a 5th ..
31 janv. 2023 à 15 h 42
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Best I can do is to replace the 3rd by a 5th ..


No, the best you can do is scrap this horrible trade all together….because it makes a stanley cup contender worse. Duh.
31 janv. 2023 à 20 h 3
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This is such a home run for St. Louis they wouldn’t quibble about anything. High fives in the front office, yes please. No take backs.


Muh huh. Okay, man. Whatever you say.
31 janv. 2023 à 20 h 6
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Muh huh. Okay, man. Whatever you say.


Debrusk has more value than either player. Heck, maybe both. Add on two first rounders and this is just ridiculous
31 janv. 2023 à 20 h 35
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Debrusk has more value than either player. Heck, maybe both. Add on two first rounders and this is just ridiculous


Dude. Nobody is complaining about value, so you can reel it in. There are usually other roster and cap-based considerations.
31 janv. 2023 à 20 h 45
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Dude. Nobody is complaining about value, so you can reel it in. There are usually other roster and cap-based considerations.


And when the value is 5x the return, it doesn’t matter. Walk into one of those stupid cashless chipotles and offer them a $100 bill for your burrito. You’ll get your meal.
31 janv. 2023 à 20 h 47
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And when the value is 5x the return, it doesn’t matter. Walk into one of those stupid cashless chipotles and offer them a $100 bill for your burrito. You’ll get your meal.


Well, as long as you're not wildly exaggerating all your points...
31 janv. 2023 à 20 h 48
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Well, as long as you're not wildly exaggerating all your points...


The analogy is somewhat hyperbolic. That was kind of the point.
31 janv. 2023 à 20 h 51
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The analogy is somewhat hyperbolic. That was kind of the point.


Uhh, I wasn't talking about the burrito part. But yeah, that was also overly fantastical, to put it politely.
31 janv. 2023 à 20 h 59
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Uhh, I wasn't talking about the burrito part. But yeah, that was also overly fantastical, to put it politely.


No the assessment of the value isn’t an exaggeration
 
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