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Packages for #2

Créé par: NateElder12
Équipe: 2017-18 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 7 juin 2017
Publié: 7 juin 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Just pondering some thoughts. People think that for some reason the #2 pick doesn't matter to Philly and that couldn't be further from the truth - it definitely does. There is no way we can move the pick unless an offer completely blows us away. Some of these deals (or most) might be unfair, but IMO it's the only way the Flyers could pass up Nico/Nolan.

***NOTE***

I know all these aren't fair, but I want to see people offer adjustments instead of just saying "unrealistic." I'm willing to actually discuss this if you have an offer I haven't thought about.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
21 000 000 $
2875 000 $
2815 000 $
54 500 000 $
2975 000 $
2975 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 450 000 $
Tolvanen/Kostin, Eeli/Klim
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
    #5 Overall
    #33 Overall
    Troy Stecher
    VAN
      #2 Overall
      #44 Overall
      Robert Hagg
      2.
      PHI
        #4 Overall
        #32 Overall
        Duchene
        COL
          #2 Overall
          #75 Overall
          #199 Overall
          3.
          PHI
            #7 Overall
            Clayton Keller
            ARI
              #2 Overall
              Brayden Schenn
              4.
              PHI
                #85 Overall
                Rights to Niederreiter
                Dumba
                MIN
                  #2 Overall
                  Robert Hagg
                  5.
                  PHI
                    #14 Overall
                    #169 Overall
                    Rights to Drouin
                    Brett Howden
                    Taylor Raddysh
                    TBL
                      #2 Overall
                      #75 Overall
                      Wayne Simmonds
                      Robert Hagg
                      6.
                      PHI
                        #30/31 Overall
                        Rights to Dante Fabbro
                        Vladisav Kamenev
                        Yakov Trenin
                        NSH
                          #2 Overall
                          #75 Overall
                          #106 Overall
                          7.
                          PHI
                            #13 Overall
                            #43 Overall
                            Nikolaj Ehlers
                            WPG
                              #2 Overall
                              #75 Overall
                              Rights to Ghost
                              8.
                              PHI
                                #10 Overall
                                #133 Overall
                                #184 Overall
                                Aleksander Barkov
                                FLA
                                  #2 Overall
                                  #106 Overall
                                  #107 Overall
                                  #108 Overall
                                  Claude Giroux
                                  9.
                                  PHI
                                    #28 Overall
                                    #47 Overall
                                    Logan Brown
                                    Colin White
                                    OTT
                                      #2 Overall
                                      #75 Overall
                                      #108 Overall
                                      Robert Hagg
                                      10.
                                      PHI
                                        #20 Overall
                                        #27 Overall
                                        #51 Overall
                                        Jordan Kyrou
                                        Tage Thompson
                                        STL
                                          #2 Overall
                                          Wayne Simmonds
                                          11.
                                          PHI
                                          1. Barzal, Mathew
                                          2. Pulock, Ryan
                                          3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2017 (NYI)
                                          NYI
                                          1. Hägg, Robert
                                          2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2017 (PHI)
                                          3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2017 (PHI)
                                          Rachats de contrats
                                          Enfoui
                                          Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
                                          2017
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                                          Logo de PHI
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                                          Logo de PHI
                                          Logo de LAK
                                          2018
                                          Logo de PHI
                                          Logo de PHI
                                          Logo de PHI
                                          Logo de PHI
                                          Logo de PHI
                                          Logo de PHI
                                          Logo de PHI
                                          2019
                                          Logo de PHI
                                          Logo de PHI
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                                          TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                                          2573 000 000 $68 044 999 $1 062 500 $3 075 000 $4 955 001 $
                                          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
                                          1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
                                          C, AD, AG
                                          UFA - 2
                                          4 137 500 $4 137 500 $
                                          AD, C
                                          NMC
                                          UFA - 5
                                          8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
                                          AD, AG
                                          UFA - 7
                                          925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
                                          AG
                                          UFA - 3
                                          863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
                                          C, AD
                                          UFA - 3
                                          3 975 000 $3 975 000 $
                                          AD, AG
                                          M-NTC
                                          UFA - 2
                                          894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
                                          AD, AG
                                          UFA - 2
                                          4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
                                          C
                                          UFA - 5
                                          5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
                                          C, AG
                                          UFA - 3
                                          875 000 $875 000 $
                                          C, AG
                                          UFA - 2
                                          5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
                                          C, AG
                                          M-NTC, NMC
                                          UFA - 1
                                          1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
                                          C, AD
                                          UFA - 2
                                          2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
                                          AG, AD
                                          UFA - 2
                                          1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
                                          AG, C
                                          UFA - 2
                                          2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
                                          AD, AG
                                          UFA - 3
                                          Tolvanen/Kostin, Eeli/Klim
                                          925 000 $925 000 $
                                          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
                                          894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
                                          DG
                                          UFA - 2
                                          2 345 000 $2 345 000 $
                                          DD
                                          UFA - 3
                                          2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
                                          G
                                          UFA - 2
                                          4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
                                          DG/DD
                                          UFA - 6
                                          863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
                                          DD
                                          UFA - 1
                                          863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
                                          DG, AG
                                          UFA - 1
                                          863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
                                          DG/DD
                                          UFA - 2
                                          975 000 $975 000 $
                                          G
                                          UFA - 1
                                          975 000 $975 000 $
                                          DG
                                          UFA - 1

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                                          7 juin 2017 à 16 h 56
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                                          wouldn't trade the 2nd overall for William Nylander straight...
                                          7 juin 2017 à 17 h 14
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                                          Quoting: phillyjabroni
                                          wouldn't trade the 2nd overall for William Nylander straight...


                                          interesting. I would personally, but that is me. What makes you say no? I think Nylander is better than Marner but it's all opinion and I'm not a hired scout nor do i watch enough TOR to truly know.
                                          7 juin 2017 à 17 h 16
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                                          Quoting: NateElder12
                                          Quoting: phillyjabroni
                                          wouldn't trade the 2nd overall for William Nylander straight...


                                          interesting. I would personally, but that is me. What makes you say no? I think Nylander is better than Marner but it's all opinion and I'm not a hired scout nor do i watch enough TOR to truly know.


                                          because I would rather have Nico/Nolan than him. I just think that the ceiling is higher for those two players than William
                                          7 juin 2017 à 17 h 16
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                                          I think these are all pretty realistic except for Florida, Arizona, and Vancouver. Overall, it's pretty good i think.
                                          7 juin 2017 à 17 h 42
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                                          Quoting: rangersandislesfan
                                          I think these are all pretty realistic except for Florida, Arizona, and Vancouver. Overall, it's pretty good i think.


                                          Yeah the FLA/ARZ ones are definitely a stretch. i am just a really big fan of Barkov and Keller so I figured I'd try something. In those deals I'm assuming we come away with Keller/Tippett and Barkov/Tolvanen or Kostin.

                                          VAN one seemed pretty realistic to me since it's basically swapping LHD for RHD and giving VAN the pick they wanted so bad. In that scenario we come away with Glass/Stecher which isn't bad.
                                          7 juin 2017 à 17 h 44
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                                          Quoting: phillyjabroni
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                                          interesting. I would personally, but that is me. What makes you say no? I think Nylander is better than Marner but it's all opinion and I'm not a hired scout nor do i watch enough TOR to truly know.


                                          because I would rather have Nico/Nolan than him. I just think that the ceiling is higher for those two players than William


                                          Hmm. That's interesting. Maybe so, but I think Nylander will be a better player than any of them. I did add more than I wanted to because I didn't want TOR fans to spam the post freaking out haha. Did you talk to Hexy yet about getting Hartman yet lol?
                                          7 juin 2017 à 18 h 1
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                                          I agree with not trading the 2nd for Nylander straight up. I really like Nylander but honestly, I think Patrick or Hischer have pretty similar projections as him and they're both centres which is more valuable. I definitely look at getting Nylander if any of the rumours are true that he could be on the block to get a defenseman but not straight for the 2nd overall.
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                                          7 juin 2017 à 18 h 6
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                                          because I would rather have Nico/Nolan than him. I just think that the ceiling is higher for those two players than William


                                          Hmm. That's interesting. Maybe so, but I think Nylander will be a better player than any of them. I did add more than I wanted to because I didn't want TOR fans to spam the post freaking out haha. Did you talk to Hexy yet about getting Hartman yet lol?


                                          as a matter of fact I have. its in the works, keep it on the dl
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                                          7 juin 2017 à 18 h 15
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                                          Quoting: CaptJosef
                                          I agree with not trading the 2nd for Nylander straight up. I really like Nylander but honestly, I think Patrick or Hischer have pretty similar projections as him and they're both centres which is more valuable. I definitely look at getting Nylander if any of the rumours are true that he could be on the block to get a defenseman but not straight for the 2nd overall.


                                          Cool. Thanks for the input!
                                           
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