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Next season

Créé par: AdrianBestGirl
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 28 déc. 2022
Publié: 28 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
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  1. Bailey, Josh (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
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28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 28
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We’re not even talking about metrics you pigeon lol , it’s strictly shooting percentage. If we actually bet on this , i would make you go broke.


Metrics are measures of quantitative assessment commonly used for assessing, comparing, and tracking performance or production.

What would u describe shooting percentage as instead?
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 28
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Why would I bet my money on this?


Really showing your IQ bud.
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 28
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Dude is averaging half a point a game rn. And he’s doing it right after his teams two best players departed. He has no power play goals 30 plus games into the year. That’s not a coincidence bro. But I expect nothing less from you given some of your more outlandish JT Miller and Bo Horvat takes.


Elias Pettersson has 0 powerplay goals this year. Must be a pretty bad player huh?
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28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 30
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there are some hockey fans out there that are too stupid to understand basic things like shooting Percentage averages and regression to the mean.

It’s like saying Pettersson was regressing a few years ago when he was just shooting way below his career average


You like to act like you’re smarter than everyone else, but you don’t seem to understand that pretty much any players performance is going to be impacted by circumstance. Pretending otherwise really shows how little you actually know about hockey.
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 32
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Elias Pettersson has 0 powerplay goals this year. Must be a pretty bad player huh?


Pettersson has 12 assists on the PP. Mangiapane has 1. Also Pettersson provides significant value outside of his goal scoring ability. Mangiapane is pretty much paid to forecheck, backcheck and score. He isn’t doing the most important part of that rn.
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 32
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You like to act like you’re smarter than everyone else, but you don’t seem to understand that pretty much any players performance is going to be impacted by circumstance. Pretending otherwise really shows how little you actually know about hockey.


Players have bad years. Mangiapane has had a bad 30 games this season. Saying he has a worse contract than Bailey is like saying Pettersson has a worse contract than Brendan Gallagher after his slow start last season...
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 33
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You like to act like you’re smarter than everyone else, but you don’t seem to understand that pretty much any players performance is going to be impacted by circumstance. Pretending otherwise really shows how little you actually know about hockey.


It’s because I actually know what I’m talking about. You think shooting percentage is impacted by players on different lines. That is the most insane argument I’ve seen on this site. Check your ego and actually strive to understand things instead of getting triggered when you’re wrong.

Own up that you made a stupid comment about Mangiapane and move on. Instead you go on and talk like a peasant
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 33
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Really showing your IQ bud.


Just not sure how this conversation shifted to gambling
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 34
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Pettersson has 12 assists on the PP. Mangiapane has 1. Also Pettersson provides significant value outside of his goal scoring ability. Mangiapane is pretty much paid to forecheck, backcheck and score. He isn’t doing the most important part of that rn.


Being effective at Forechecking and backchecking is one of the most valuable skills to have away from the puck.
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 34
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Players have bad years. Mangiapane has had a bad 30 games this season. Saying he has a worse contract than Bailey is like saying Pettersson has a worse contract than Brendan Gallagher after his slow start last season...


Don’t twist my words. I said that his production has not been that of a 5.8 million dollar player, and that the isles shouldn’t take the risk of adding 5.8 million dollars to the books for an additional year.
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 34
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Being effective at Forechecking and backchecking is one of the most valuable skills to have away from the puck.


Hot take bro. Don’t pay 5.8 million dollars for a guy who won’t put the puck in the net. At least I can get rid of bailey earlier.
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 35
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Hot take bro. Don’t pay 5.8 million dollars for a guy who won’t put the puck in the net. At least I can get rid of bailey earlier.


Mangiapane scored 35 goals last season lmao
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 36
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Don’t twist my words. I said that his production has not been that of a 5.8 million dollar player, and that the isles shouldn’t take the risk of adding 5.8 million dollars to the books for an additional year.


Don't take the risk of taking a very very good top 6 player at 26 years old? Yeah what a big risk...
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28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 36
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Hot take bro. Don’t pay 5.8 million dollars for a guy who won’t put the puck in the net. At least I can get rid of bailey earlier.


He literally scored 30 last year...
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 37
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It’s because I actually know what I’m talking about. You think shooting percentage is impacted by players on different lines. That is the most insane argument I’ve seen on this site. Check your ego and actually strive to understand things instead of getting triggered when you’re wrong.

Own up that you made a stupid comment about Mangiapane and move on. Instead you go on and talk like a peasant


Who the heck are you lmao? I “talk like a peasant?” Dude I understand that hockey is a team game and that a players total impact can be helped or hurt by the entire roster. The fact that you dont understand to at isn’t the case is beyond me.
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 37
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Hot take bro. Don’t pay 5.8 million dollars for a guy who won’t put the puck in the net. At least I can get rid of bailey earlier.


Do you think Mangiapane will score 20 goals this season?
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 37
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Mangiapane scored 35 goals last season lmao


No ****. What has he done lately?

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He literally scored 30 last year...


And this year he has how many?
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 38
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No ****. What has he done lately?



And this year he has how many?


It has been 30 games. You seriously think these 30 games completely define him as a player?
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 38
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No ****. What has he done lately?



And this year he has how many?


Your logic is to write off a full season of putting up 35 goals and instead focus on a shooting slump in the first 36 games of this season. Lol cmon man grow up
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28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 39
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Do you think Mangiapane will score 20 goals this season?


I’m sure he could turn it around, but he currently has 7 goals and 8 assists thru 36 games. How much should I want to pay for him?
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 40
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I’m sure he could turn it around, but he currently has 7 goals and 8 assists thru 36 games. How much should I want to pay for him?


A guy who plays close to selke level defense and scores 20 goals is worth 5.8 mill. And I bet he will score more than 20 this season.
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 40
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It has been 30 games. You seriously think these 30 games completely define him as a player?


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Your logic is to write off a full season of putting up 35 goals and instead focus on a shooting slump in the first 36 games of this season. Lol cmon man grow up


His career high is 55 points and it came last season. The top two players on the team left and his numbers cratered. Are you seriously going to tell me that those two players had no impact on his numbers? Because the results don’t seem to agree with your assessment.
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 44
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Don't take the risk of taking a very very good top 6 player at 26 years old? Yeah what a big risk...


I’m not even gonna get into this. He’s not producing like a 5.8 million dollar player and his career high is 55 points. I’d rather keep my options open in the future than trade for him rn.
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 45
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His career high is 55 points and it came last season. The top two players on the team left and his numbers cratered. Are you seriously going to tell me that those two players had no impact on his numbers? Because the results don’t seem to agree with your assessment.


He didn’t play on the same line as those players so that argument holds 0 weight. How are you still arguing this. They added Huberdeau who’s on a similar level to Gaudreau and Kadri is better than anyone Mangiapane has ever played with
28 déc. 2022 à 22 h 45
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His career high is 55 points and it came last season. The top two players on the team left and his numbers cratered. Are you seriously going to tell me that those two players had no impact on his numbers? Because the results don’t seem to agree with your assessment.


It is almost like Mangiapane wasn't even linemates with them... Tkachuk and Gaudreau were mostly on a line with Lindholm
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