Sabres pass

Trading Tanev is a horrible idea. Have you seen how ****ty we have played without him?

Chris would help the Sabre's beleaguered PK and balance the defensive line up.
I can understand why Calgary fans would say no, while Tanev is signed for only two years (same as Olofsson and nearly the same cap hit) and is 32 YO, it is incomprehensible why a Sabre fan would say no.

Unless a righty can play on the left for buffalo, we are all set and can deny

Buffalo accept

Wait what? Top 4 RD + 2nd for VO and Bryson? Easy yes. We need improve D and Olofsson does little for us, he will anyway leave at TDL or summer.

I like olofsson more than most, I'd do this trade though. At this point, Bryson is worth very little, so it's olofsson for a 2nd plus a top 4 defensive defender who is under contract for an additional year. This isn't some derp trade where olofsson gets moved for a cup of warm piss.

Then do Mittlestadt 1 for 1. He was playing LW any way, not Olofsson. Unless Tanev plays LD as well, that leaves them with Pilut and Clague and Lybushkin on the bench when they're at full health. I'd rather trade pieces that don't fit for pieces that do, instead of visa versa. Nobody can step in and replace Olofsson's production, especially when the problem with the 3rd line isn't addressed.

Olofsson is here until the end of next season. He's also one of 6 players with 10+ goals so he does a lot more than nothing. He's far from the problem that you keep trying to make him.

Oh, I'd drive Casey to the airport myself. Was thinking lybushkin could be moved for something decent. Nobody ever says 'we've gotta get softer for the playoffs'. I am of course all for swapping olofsson with mittelstadt.

I think Adams will trade him before Olofsson gone in UFA. Olofsson's metrics are still bad and some of his goals are in empty nets and at PP, he doesn't do much at ES. But this trade is beneficial for Buffalo, we need the top 4 RD more than Olofsson or Mittelstadt, we have no problem scoring goals or on PP. Olofsson is not a key player in the team, who also has a lot of disadvantages in his game.

These arguements are very very tired and outdated, he has 3 empty netter's, same as Tuch, 2 came in one game and he hasn't had an EN goal since November 2nd. He has 3 PPGs and 5 PPPs. So that's 10 5 v 5 goals (77%) of which 3 are EN and 2 are GWG. In the Granato years he has 38 goals 42 assists of which 11 are ppg (29%) 22 ppp (28%) in 131 games (.61 ppg) while averaging 15:45 ice time and only 6 of the 38 we're EN. He's severely underrated by people who cling to 5 year old tropes that are not even remotely accurate anymore, because of some weird bias. He's also stuck with a black hole in Mittlestadt who makes everyone on the team worse and currently has 2 5v5 goals 17 points, 10 of which are from the PP (59%), which is way more of a PP specialist than Olofsson. Olofsson defensive play isn't even as bad as everyone tries to make it out to be, and would be/has been better with out Mittlestadt who is the analytically the worst defensive forward on the team. Olofsson is by far not a problem and adds 5v5 points (currently 13pts - 72%) to the leagues best offense, seems pretty key and most named disadvantages are imaginary

I didn't see Olofsson's great performance without Mitts when Skinner was suspended and Mitts was on the first line. So I trade any of them, and preferably both, to improve our defense. Also I would replace one of them with a more physical player.

Mitts was on the 1st line and that line disappeared, 5v5 they were -2 with 0 goals for. Olofsson had 3 points, Jost had 2, Krebs had 2, and Asplund had 2, in those 3 games. You have to be wearing literal blinders to not see it.

No, I don't wear blinders, I say what I see, they both sucks and there is no place for them in this team in the near future. The vision test and metrics show it, that's all.

@Fjordy
Blinders?
No one is saying Mittelstadt is great. but Tuch-Thompson-Mittelstadt line produced 5 goals in those three games.
What were you watching?

When Skinner played there, they scored even more. Thompson is very good, you can put any pylon on this line and it will still produce. Mittelstadt and Olofsson are probably our two worst forwards, even Krebs has been looking better lately. I would get rid of Mitts and Olofsson at TDL or in summer.

I was not making a case that Mittelstadt is any good, only that Shibbal had his facts wrong.
I added to my post, but you quoted it before I could make my edit.
Skinner-Thompso-Tuch could be the best line in the NHL.
Mittelstadt is not a top line player.

EDIT more than 5 goals in three games from Thompson and Tuch?
Neither Olofsson not Mittelstadt have a future on this team.
No doubt, ONLY that Shibbal had his facts wrong.

Thompson and Tuch did on the PP and away from Mittlestadt, not that line. Mittelstadt had 1 assist where he did nothing again, on the 1 5v5 points that line had in those 3 games, that was his only point in the last 4 games. Skinner had 3 points in his first game back. What were you watching?

All of the data is readily available. You sound like a gretzkyghosts burner account. You want to make the claim I have my facts wrong but then presented with the numbers you hide?

LOL, you are paranoid but you also provide false information.
Tuch and Thompson combined for 5 goals in the three games, among the three games they were +1 not -2.
I would never presume Casey is a top line player, but your facts are wrong.

Tuch had 3 PP points and 0 even strength points, Thompson had 1 5v5 goal and 4 PP points, Mittlestadt had 1 5v5 assist 0 power play points. On Thompson's 5v5 goal Quinn was on the ice, not Tuch. As I said:
So please explain how it is false? Thompson and Tuch we're +1 but Mittlestadt Thompson Tuch wasn't. If you have any more questions please feel free to ask them or just actually look at the data before saying someone else is wrong because they don't immediately bow to your opinion and actually challenge you

https://www.hockey-reference.com/boxscores/202212150COL.html
16 Tage Thompson 1 1 2 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 50.0 27 22:50
17 Alex Tuch 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 5 20.0 26 21:16
https://www.hockey-reference.com/boxscores/202212130BUF.html
17 Tage Thompson 2 1 3 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 1 0 5 40.0 20 19:29
18 Alex Tuch 1 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 4 25.0 20 19:58
https://www.hockey-reference.com/boxscores/202212100PIT.html
17 Tage Thompson 0 0 0 -1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0.0 24 20:05
18 Alex Tuch 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0.0 25 20:06

You can add them up.

No one is saying Mittelstadt is a top line player.
he is not part of the future.
those are for the season.
You will never give up.

You're proving my point. I've told you multiple times Thompson and Tuch had those points on the powerplay, go look at the pages you just posted. This entire conversation is how Mittlestadt brings Tuch and Thompson down. Their line at even strength was 0 goals -2. Even strength does not include power play time, no matter how many times you try to add it in.