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Cup Year2 Pasta

Créé par: SweetRevenge19
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 1 déc. 2022
Publié: 1 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Part 2

Interested if they’d try going after a top UFA scorer like Pastrnak or Kane. Would have lots of competition and likely need to be at higher AAV

Larkin probably gets something more like the Hertl or Jack Hughes contracts

Marco Rossi lurking…
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2 déc. 2022 à 0 h 35
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A little low with your prices there. Also EK65 deal is not close in value, even if you look at the contract being a detriment down the line.
2 déc. 2022 à 0 h 43
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No thanks on Erik Karlsson, Mike Grier isn't eating $20,000,000 on Karlsson. And we're not trading Vrana for Karlsson either.

Your UFA signings are way too low. none of them are remotely close to what they will actually get.

David Pastrnak 7 x $11,500,000.
Dylan Larkin 8 x $9,150,000
Tyler Bertuzzi is 100% gone and wont be resigned.
Alex Nedeljkovic is 100% gone, And won't be resigned.
Olli Maatta signing looks about right, Should Yzerman resign him.
Jorden Osterle won't be resigned.
Oskar Sundqvist will be more in the 3 x $3,000,000 range.
Adam Erne is gone, Doubtful he's resigned.
2 déc. 2022 à 1 h 0
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No thanks on Erik Karlsson, Mike Grier isn't eating $20,000,000 on Karlsson. And we're not trading Vrana for Karlsson either.

Your UFA signings are way too low. none of them are remotely close to what they will actually get.

David Pastrnak 7 x $11,500,000.
Dylan Larkin 8 x $9,150,000
Tyler Bertuzzi is 100% gone and wont be resigned.
Alex Nedeljkovic is 100% gone, And won't be resigned.
Olli Maatta signing looks about right, Should Yzerman resign him.
Jorden Osterle won't be resigned.
Oskar Sundqvist will be more in the 3 x $3,000,000 range.
Adam Erne is gone, Doubtful he's resigned.


Not that great or interesting of a take..
Read the description.. I said Larkin & Pasta can get more.. but Yzerman said this is the way.
Oesterle was traded last deadline as an expiring throw in..
Disagree about Bert and Ned strongly..
And you’re actually off on Sundqvist market value..
2 déc. 2022 à 2 h 22
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Not that great or interesting of a take..
Read the description.. I said Larkin & Pasta can get more.. but Yzerman said this is the way.
Oesterle was traded last deadline as an expiring throw in..
Disagree about Bert and Ned strongly..
And you’re actually off on Sundqvist market value..


My takes are spot on.

You think Larkin is getting anywhere from the Hertl to Hughes deal, You're far off. if Larkin was willing to take those deals he'd already be resigned by now. Larkins reported ask is the Mathew Barzal deal that i just stated above. Larkin either signs that or closer to 8 x $9,500,000 if you think Larkin is taking anywhere close to 8 x 8 you haven't been following the negotiations.

And who cares about what Yzerman says about Larkin and Pasta, For those offers both sign elsewhere and that's a known fact.

And you can strongly disagree about my Bertuzzi and Nedeljkovic statement, Both are 100% gone, And i'm not the one saying but NHL insiders that know far more than either you and i about them. Bertuzzi can't stay healthy and Yzerman isn't going to invest into him long term. And Nedeljkovic is just pure garbage.

And if you think i'm off on Sundqvist value then you're off on his market value,He's currently making $2,750,000 right now. And the way he's playing he's due for a raise. if anything i slightly undervalued him. he's not taking no discount he's been one of our better players when he's healthy. he's probably actually closer to 3 x $3,500,000 at the very least.
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2 déc. 2022 à 7 h 35
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This is all extremely silly
2 déc. 2022 à 19 h 14
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This is all extremely silly

Why, how so?
2 déc. 2022 à 19 h 37
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Why, how so?


@deadwingsv2
Pasta cannot sign longer than 7 years. On top of that, with cap increase rumors, his performance, comparable factors, etc. he is due to be looking closer to 10+. Larkin signing at 7.1M would have happened already if that was all he was asking for. Bertuzzi is unimaginable due to past performance, injuries, future outlook. This is another contract dilemma with him. The term and AAV is odd due to him as a player. Ned has underperformed, and will ultimately be traded at lower value or be a reclamation/desperation project. Cossa coming in and SY's ability to find a competent backup or bridge that gap makes this a waste. Maata is fine, I personally think he is the best thing to happen to Hronek, absent the new coach. Oesterle is gone due to how SY operates as well as incoming prospects. Sunny looks good, however he may look to increase term to maximize his own value. Erne is gone, most likely playing himself out of being re-signed.
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