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Fischer is a 3rd line forward. He might be a rental, because he is arbitration eligible and has a resume that will make teams apprehensive that he will get more than the 1.5M or so he is worth in arbitration. Optimistically, he is worth a 3rd round pick. Realistically, he is worth a 4th-7th round pick.
Any trade that involves Boucher, you have to look at it from the Senators POV. They have no reason to trade Boucher. They value him as a first round talent. If you see Boucher as being worth less than that, like this trade proposes, it makes zero sense to include him. It's not efficient for Ottawa.
Formenton is probably worth something similar to Fischer. A mid or late round pick. If he wasn't facing the issues he is facing and was signed to a bridge deal, he would be worth a lot more. We're talking about a speedy 23 year old who scored 18 goals last year. Very few teams will be in a position to acquire him because of the scrutiny of saying 'hey we're going to gamble a 4th round pick that he didn't do anything wrong". Because of the dynamic of where Arizona falls in the hockey world, they might be one of the few teams who can do that.
Fischer for Formenton makes sense. Take away all the other noise. Unless Fischer continues scoring like he is now (he probably won't), he's worth a 4th round pick at the deadline. Maybe a 3rd on the absolute high end, or maybe a 5th-7th on the low end. Somewhere in that range. Throw in a conditional 4th round pick a few years down the line with the condition crafted in a way where Formenton has to play x amount of games in 23-24 or 24-25 for it to not transfer. That way if he never plays again the Coyotes still get an asset for Fischer.
I don't think there is any universe where Formenton can come back to Ottawa. Even in a scenario where his name is 100 percent cleared, there will be way too much negative publicity. Especially with the Senators attempting to sell the team. They won't want to deal with that.
(Disclaimer: Obviously all speculation, all the Formenton stuff is alleged, we don't know what he did or didn't do, nothing has been proven, I am only speculating on a trade, etc, etc, please don't Brian Burke me.)