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Jeff Skinner Rumor

Créé par: LeftyWinger12
Équipe: 2015-16 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 24 août 2015
Publié: 24 août 2015
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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A rumor surfaced yesterday, August 23rd, about a trade with the Carolina Hurricanes. http://thehockeypress.sportsblog.com/posts/3086546/nhl-trade-rumor--jeff-skinner-to-philadelphia-flyers---vincent-lecavalier-to-carolina-hurricanes.html. This is what could be a potential roster and an explanation of why the trade may happen or stagnate.

Why acquire Skinner?
The Flyers have been hard pressed to find a player who can play on the left side without wavering. When the trade of JVR for Luke Schenn occurred, the coaching staff has not had a player capable of filling that hole. Skinner is a viable option to be able to fill such a gap that has seen its fare share fillers. The only question would be if Skinner can stay healthy enough to make an impact and to help address the secondary scoring problem.

Why trade Lecavalier?
His cap hit and poor play. It's no secret that the team has been desperate to rid themselves of Vinny. There just haven't been any takers for such a high salary and the dismal numbers.

Why trade Luke Schenn?
The argument to keep Schenn would be that he is only 25 and he is a right-handed shot. However, the negatives far outweigh the positives. Luke has been in and out of the lineup and that's the only thing that is consistent in his game. Even though he is right-handed, he was only able to amass 3 goals last season. Which means it doesn't matter what hand he shoots with.

Why trade Cousins?
Cousins saw some time at the conclusion of last season playing in 11 games, but getting no points. However, he is a young player at 22, and has some offensive upside that gives him value. But with the with the log jam of centers from the retention of Sam Ganger, the emergence of Scott Laughton, and the drafting of Travis Konecny, Cousins is a piece that can help the Flyers acquire something that is in desperate need.

The 1st round pick...and a 3rd round pick?
This is where, in my opinion, the trade gets sticky. Hextall has preached retaining assets and letting the team develop through the draft. Trading this high of a pick doesn't seem like a Hextall-like approach to a trade.
Transactions
PHI
  1. Skinner, Jeff
Détails additionnels:
2016 4th round pick
CAR
  1. Cousins, Nick
  2. Lecavalier, Vincent
  3. Schenn, Luke
Détails additionnels:
2016 1st round pick
2016 3rd round pick
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2371 400 000 $62 719 125 $0 $212 500 $8 680 875 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
4 137 500 $4 137 500 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 7
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
5 725 000 $5 725 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
3 975 000 $3 975 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
3 625 000 $3 625 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
712 500 $712 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $
C
UFA - 1
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
C
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
712 500 $712 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
2 501 625 $2 501 625 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
G
UFA - 2
3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 625 000 $1 625 000 $
G
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
991 667 $991 667 $
DD
UFA - 1

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24 août 2015 à 16 h 24
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So Carolina is now the dumping ground for contracts and even give useful players for virtually free? Like the terribly one-sided Khubodin trade to Anaheim?
24 août 2015 à 16 h 42
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Modifié 24 août 2015 à 17 h 7
Lefty I see this is your first post. Thanks for the detailed explanation. First, I think Skinner is on the decline, which makes him a perfect candidate for the Flyers to get him. But your trade you proposed is pretty good. Schenn and Lecavalier combined have about the same salary and term as Skinner. Let's imagine (it doesn't take much) that Vinny and Luke has no real value, than what can the Flyers give to Carolina for the potential (again) stardom of Skinner. Instead of an iffy Cousins and the draft picks, how about this deal. The Flyers have four young defencemen with apparently good NHL potential.....Hagg, Povorov, Saneheim and Morin. Flyers and Canes agree on two to make the deal. Skinnner for Luke, Vinny and two young defencemen.
Thanks for insight, and it will get all brilliant Armchair GMs to tweak and make the deal.
24 août 2015 à 18 h 25
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Nice explanation Lefty! Thanks.

The way I see it, on paper, this trade does make some sense. Personally though, from my experience from previous real NHL trades, blogger discussions and general "rule of thumb" mentalities, the value associated with taking on salary and term of a player you know you don't really want and will not really benefit from the trade himself (in this case Lecavalier) , is so not worth it that it makes the "good" parts of the trade like the prospects and picks worth less they are. I'm not trying to say that Lecavalier is the scum of the earth and is a terrible hockey player, just that his value (not ability) as a player is like worth negative points right now.

So when dissecting the trade down to all it's components and re-evaluating each one in the trade, Carolina would be better off (value-wise) trading Skinner to a team for lesser "good" prospects and picks than the trade rumour listed. Let me paint the scenario:

If your a Gm and your team is cap-conscious due to the owner's financial constraints or just because your team already has a lot of salary and can't just blow money left and right on fringe players, which one of these would be A) less risky for the future and B) still net you a good return?

Team A trades -
1st rounder 2016
Prospect (Something like a former 2nd round pick within the last 3 years prospect - similar to Cousins)
For
Skinner 5.75M

Or

Flyers trade -
Lecavalier 4.5M
Schenn 3.2M
Cousins 0.9M
1st rounder
3rd rounder
For
Skinner 5.75M
4th rounder
 
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