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Changing one event from the past changes this team a lot

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Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 29 août 2022
Publié: 29 août 2022
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So im only going to change a couple of variables in oilers history, does this make the team significantly better?

Lets theorize that Klefbom was never injured
We assume the rest of the D signings / trades they made stayed the same

that would likely mean that 1. Darnell Nurse would be a 2LD and would likely only be making 5-5.5 million,
2. Barrie probably wouldn't have been signed as we had Klef to run the PP

With changing just 1 variable I think this is one of the best teams in the league and can be considered a true cup contender
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29 août 2022 à 15 h 19
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Couldn’t you just do this all day with anybody.

What if mcdavid blew his knee out? Then this team wouldn’t be good.
29 août 2022 à 15 h 30
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Couldn’t you just do this all day with anybody.

What if mcdavid blew his knee out? Then this team wouldn’t be good.


More just a thought experiment, it's not often that a team has their #1 Defenceman in their prime have a career ending injury.

Its interesting to think how 1 thing changes this much for a team
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29 août 2022 à 15 h 38
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I still think we end up with Barrie even if klef was fine because Barrie choose Edmonton and signed at a discount to make it happen maybe that would have forced another move elsewhere on the roster. The biggest change I think it would have made is drafting broberg in my opinion that pick was made as future insurance for this exact situation. If klef and Nurse had no health issues I don't see taking a lefty that year.
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I still think we end up with Barrie even if klef was fine because Barrie choose Edmonton and signed at a discount to make it happen maybe that would have forced another move elsewhere on the roster. The biggest change I think it would have made is drafting broberg in my opinion that pick was made as future insurance for this exact situation. If klef and Nurse had no health issues I don't see taking a lefty that year.


And in that case we likely would have drafted Zegras
29 août 2022 à 15 h 51
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that 1. Darnell Nurse would be a 2LD and would likely only be making 5-5.5 million,

Wrong. Nurse was playing more (and harder) minutes than Klefbom by his 22 year old season.

2017-18 TOI/GP at 5v5
Nurse: 18:53 (34.8% v Elites)
Klefbom: 16:57 (32.3% v Elites)

Klefbom played 2 more seasons after that, so it wasn't like he was injured and on his way out. Nurse was already ahead of Klefbom as a 22 year old. He's a legit 1st pair defenseman for 5 years despite not being paid like one.
29 août 2022 à 15 h 54
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Wrong. Nurse was playing more (and harder) minutes than Klefbom by his 22 year old season.

2017-18 TOI/GP at 5v5
Nurse: 18:53 (34.8% v Elites)
Klefbom: 16:57 (32.3% v Elites)

Klefbom played 2 more seasons after that, so it wasn't like he was injured and on his way out. Nurse was already ahead of Klefbom as a 22 year old. He's a legit 1st pair defenseman for 5 years despite not being paid like one.


Even Still, it would have stopped that 2nd bridge deal from happening, and he very likely would have ended up signing something like an 8 year 6 mil AAV contract
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Even Still, it would have stopped that 2nd bridge deal from happening, and he very likely would have ended up signing something like an 8 year 6 mil AAV contract


Why would it have stopped the 2nd bridge, and how could that have lowered his AAV to $6M?? They signed the bridge knowing the Klefbom was going to LTIR - they simply didn't have the money for a long term deal. And he signed at $5.6M x 2, the corollary to that definitively isn't $6M x 8.

IIRC the number being bandied about that summer was in the $7 - 8M range for a long term contract, but they didn't have the cap space to make it happen.
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Why would it have stopped the 2nd bridge, and how could that have lowered his AAV to $6M?? They signed the bridge knowing the Klefbom was going to LTIR - they simply didn't have the money for a long term deal. And he signed at $5.6M x 2, the corollary to that definitively isn't $6M x 8.

IIRC the number being bandied about that summer was in the $7 - 8M range for a long term contract, but they didn't have the cap space to make it happen.


Good to know, I was under the assumption that they bridged him because they assumed he would still be their 2nd pair dman and wouldnt have to pay him a super expensive deal when the bridge was done
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