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Barzal next season

Créé par: Ledge_And_Dairy
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 15 août 2022
Publié: 16 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
***Disclaimer***

This trade is a purely hypothetical idea based on the Islander both missing the playoffs in 22/23 and that Barzal (like Tkachuk) says he will not sign a long term deal in in NYI in the offseason. It also assumes that one of the teams he is willing to sign a long term deal with is Calgary (closer to home and a competing team), thus the 2nd "sign & trade" in NHL history is conducted.

This is not meant to be taken too seriously as it is still very unlikely to happen. However I did attempt to make the trade "fair" despite the likely negative feedback I will get.
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Breakdown of the trade (note that I am choosing a bit of a different direction than Calgary adding Huberdeau and Weegar, instead I am going for more of a futures package but also a more NHL ready futures package than just straight picks. I think Barzal's value is more in line with what DeBrincat or Eichel returned over what Tkachuk got).

- Coronato (I expect him to have a very good season in the NCAA this year keeping him as a top prospect in the league, I also think he signs his ELC at the end of the NCAA season and joins the Flames as a Black Ace for the playoffs)
- Dube (I think he will have a much better season in 22/23 and look like more of a surefire 40+ point power forward. I don't think his production last year correctly reflected his underlying numbers well. I am also assuming the allegations are lifted in this scenario)
- Vladar (Proven young and solid NHL backup for when Varly retires next season)
- 2024 1st (lotto or top 10 protected as is the standard now)
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
89 000 000 $
1850 000 $
2900 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
76 500 000 $
1775 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Gunler, Noel
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
CAR
  1. Kylington, Oliver
Détails additionnels:
Not quite sure what I would want in return but I wouldn't hate this
2.
WSH
  1. Välimäki, Juuso [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Trade takes place in 22/23. Players are swapped to avoid waivers for both sides while adding team needs
3.
CGY
  1. Barzal, Mathew [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Trade takes place after the 2023 draft.

Pick conditions are the same as the Eichel trade
NYI
  1. Coronato, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  2. Dubé, Dillon
  3. Vladar, Daniel [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de CAR
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Logo de CGY
2024
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Logo de CGY
2025
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Logo de FLA
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Logo de NYI
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $73 769 999 $0 $15 000 $9 730 001 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
855 833 $855 833 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
775 000 $775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
813 333 $813 333 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
900 000 $900 000 $
DD
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
950 000 $950 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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16 août 2022 à 16 h 31
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
Coronato doesmt project as a C at the nhl level though so hes still a W. You wrote that dube hits 40 points sorry but even so tuch>>>40 point dube. I dont think much better return but i think he should get a better return as kevyn adams had less than 0 leverage.


How does Lou have leverage in this scenario? If you think he does you clearly don't understand the scenario
16 août 2022 à 16 h 38
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How does Lou have leverage in this scenario? If you think he does you clearly don't understand the scenario


He has a lot more leverage than adams did bc whichever team traded for eichel the had to let him get a procedure never done before on a hockey player plus he wasnt going to be available long term. None of that is the case with barzal so yes there are going to be better offers in this hypothetical.
16 août 2022 à 16 h 47
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He has a lot more leverage than adams did bc whichever team traded for eichel the had to let him get a procedure never done before on a hockey player plus he wasnt going to be available long term. None of that is the case with barzal so yes there are going to be better offers in this hypothetical.


Fair point. But I'm really not sure how much better offers you will get. Especially if Barzal gives a list like Tkachuk did
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16 août 2022 à 16 h 51
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laugh That offer for Matthew Barzal would be blown away by 3/4 of the league.

FYI Barzals qualifying offer is $10,000,000 there's no way in hell Barzal is signing for 8 x $9,000,000 not even close.
16 août 2022 à 16 h 55
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laugh That offer for Matthew Barzal would be blown away by 3/4 of the league.

FYI Barzals qualifying offer is $10,000,000 there's no way in hell Barzal is signing for 8 x $9,000,000 not even close.


1. You didn't read the description
2. His QO is 8.4M
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16 août 2022 à 16 h 57
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
1. You didn't read the description
2. His QO is 8.4M


Well then the Islander fans on hockey future are wrong, They kept saying his qualifying offer was around $10,000,000 per for next year.
16 août 2022 à 17 h 3
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Well then the Islander fans on hockey future are wrong, They kept saying his qualifying offer was around $10,000,000 per for next year.


They are. The deal was signed in January of 2021 which is after June 2020 change so the max the QO can be is 120% of his AAV
 
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