Another Kraken Trade Compilation

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Créé par: KrakenTheCode

Équipe: 2022-23 Kraken de Seattle

Date de création initiale: 7 août 2022

Publié: 8 août 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

This is another compilation of proposed trades involving the Kraken that were created by people on CapFriendly. I've included my thoughts on each as well. I didn't include proposed trades I covered in my previous edition, the link to which is pasted below:

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3532705

Once again, most of these proposed trades I saw don't really make sense for Seattle, whether it was from a value or fit standpoint. I think everyone looked at the Bjorkstrand trade and figured Seattle was open for business when it came to dealing their stockpile of draft picks. The truth is acquiring Bjorkstrand was the result of the Kraken weaponizing their cap space to get a very good player at a steep discount who is in his prime and under contract for multiple years at a fair rate. It does NOT mean they are willing to pay a premium for veteran salaries other capped out teams are desperate to move.

Overall of all the trade proposals created by others that are listed here, only trades 5 and 6 make some sense for Seattle in my opinion. Even in those cases the deals might require some tweaks, and Seattle's willingness to pull the trigger on either would hinge on non-quantifiable factors.

Transactions

SEA

Pearson, Tanner

Détails additionnels:

Pearson's a decent player, but the Kraken have a bunch of veteran winger depth already, especially after re-signing Donato. They have zero reason to help bail the Canucks out of their cap situation by paying a draft pick for a player similar to Donato, especially when the proposed price is not much less than what they paid for Bjorkstrand, who is a far superior player to Pearson.

VAN

Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (SEA)

SEA

Dillon, Brenden

Détails additionnels:

The Kraken are well stocked at left defense with Dunn, Oleksiak, and Soucy, not to mention Ryker Evans waiting in the wings. With that in mind, it doesn't make sense for them to trade draft picks they could use to build up their draft pool for a 31 year old defenseman who they could have had in the expansion draft.

WPG

Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (SEA)

SEA

Ruhwedel, Chad

Détails additionnels:

This sort of deal where a team gives up a draft pick for veteran depth is one a team more ready to seriously contend would make (like Pittsburgh, ironically enough). For Seattle, it makes more sense to keep their draft picks to build up their prospect pool and give Will Borgen a chance as the third pairing right defenseman.

PIT

Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (SEA)

SEA

Zucker, Jason
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

The first round pick is enticing, but I doubt the Kraken go for this. Given the costs to shed salary right now, it's likely going to cost quite a bit for Pittsburgh to offload Zucker, even though he only has one year left on his deal (See how Columbus traded Bjorkstrand instead of Nyquist to become compliant). I don't think a late first and fourth is enough to both do that and return McCann, who is locked up through his prime at an affordable rate and is coming off a breakout season. Not to mention Seattle just extended him, so clearly they view him as a key piece to their core moving forward.

PIT

McCann, Jared

SEA

McGinn, Brock
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

This is more along the lines of what Seattle would do at this point in time; take on other teams' salary to gain additional draft capital. It is worth noting that Tanev was having a very good season prior to his injury, and the Kraken seem to value him as a leader. So that has to be taken into consideration. Beyond that, whether Seattle takes this sort of deal or not depends on if the draft picks are enough value to make it worth both downgrading from Tanev to McGinn and retaining half of Tanev's salary for three years.

PIT

Tanev, Brandon (1 750 000 $ retained)

SEA

Kerfoot, Alexander

Détails additionnels:

Of all the trades I've seen sending Kerfoot and/or Holl to Seattle, this is probably the most realistic. Most involve Seattle giving up 2nd or 3rd round picks, which I don't think they'll go for given where they are at as a franchise. However, I could see this sort of deal framework happening IF the Kraken want to prioritize an immediate boost to their forward group over giving someone like Geekie development time and they think they can extend Kerfoot.

TOR

Geekie, Morgan

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Brandon Tanev: 1 750 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	83 839 166 $	0 $	925 000 $	-1 339 166 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Burakovsky, André 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5	Beniers, Matthew 897 500 $897 500 $ (925 000 $$925K) C RFA - 2	Eberle, Jordan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 2
Schwartz, Jaden 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 4	Gourde, Yanni 5 166 666 $5 166 666 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Bjorkstrand, Oliver 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Wennberg, Alexander 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Donskoi, Joonas 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Donato, Ryan 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Zucker, Jason 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Oleksiak, Jamie 4 600 000 $4 600 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 4	Larsson, Adam 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 3	Grubauer, Philipp 5 900 000 $5 900 000 $ G NTC UFA - 5
Dunn, Vince 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Schultz, Justin 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2
	Soucy, Carson 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Jones, Martin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Dillon, Brenden 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ DG UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
McGinn, Brock 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3		Driedger, Chris 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Ruhwedel, Chad 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 2
Kuhlman, Karson 825 000 $825 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Wright, Shane 950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C RFA - 4
Lind, Kole 850 000 $850 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD UFA - 1
Borgen, William 900 000 $900 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DD UFA - 1

8 août 2022 à 13 h 42

Canesfan21_

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I think we can all agree Seattle is mostly a placeholder for “any team”

Ddug, Jets33 et Elias_Sedin a aimé ceci.

8 août 2022 à 14 h 0

Ddug

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Quoting: Canesfan21_

I think we can all agree Seattle is mostly a placeholder for “any team”

Probably but this is an interesting breakdown of these proposed deals. Nice to have the logic behind why someone thinks a trade wouldn't work vs the standard "that's dumb, instantly rejected" type response

8 août 2022 à 14 h 0

KrakenTheCode

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: Canesfan21_

I think we can all agree Seattle is mostly a placeholder for “any team”

There were definitely some of those, but I didn’t include any in this post. For each of the trades above there were at least a couple of examples where people were directing them towards Seattle specifically.

8 août 2022 à 15 h 6

Elias_Sedin

The Canucks Suck

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Canucks accept

8 août 2022 à 15 h 6

Elias_Sedin

The Canucks Suck

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Quoting: KrakenTheCode

Would you do Pearson for Soucy

8 août 2022 à 15 h 15

Imagine875948

Pens are the best

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Pens accept the 1st and 3rd trades

8 août 2022 à 15 h 40

Haymaker26

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I'm at the point where I don't understand the Penguin deals from our perspective either. The Hextall management protected Kappy and Carter over McCann. They resigned McGinn as a Tanev lite. They just extended Ruhwedel, and are happy with having this many NHL caliber defensemen. We can discuss the effectiveness of these moves all we want, but I doubt they'll want to go back on these moves so soon. Besides, I think it's worth noting 1) that with how stacked next year's draft is expected to be, I'd be very hesitant to give up a 2023 first for 1 more year of Zucker, and 2) McGinn was a lot better in the first half of the season than the 2nd, and missed a good portion of March and April.

8 août 2022 à 17 h 41

KrakenTheCode

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Quoting: SamTheGoalie36

Would you do Pearson for Soucy

Probably not. The Kraken have a surplus of forwards that are either younger than Pearson and need playing time to develop or are just better. There's not really room for him. Plus, the Kraken seem to really like Soucy and turned down trade offers for him last year, so I get the impression they might end up extending him.

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