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Trading with DAL

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Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 30 juill. 2022
Publié: 30 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
- Will Cuylle can reunite with Johnston.
- DAL have awesome C prospects but on d- and wing it is thin.
- Can Lundkvist become a new Klingberg?
- Logan because DAL won't be trading Johnston or Bourque. And NYR won't take Dellandrea, he doesn't have enough upside to push the trade.
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UFAANSCAP HIT
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Transactions
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DAL
  1. Cuylle, Will
  2. Lundkvist, Nils
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
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NYR
  1. Nodler, Josh [Liste de réserve]
CGY
  1. Gauthier, Julien
  2. Reaves, Ryan
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (COL)
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30 juill. 2022 à 6 h 33
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I'd counter with Dellandrea+4th for Lundkvist, but I wouldn't move Stankoven for this.
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30 juill. 2022 à 13 h 49
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I still wouldn’t give any of Wyatt, Stank, or Bourque for Nils. Even with value added
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30 juill. 2022 à 15 h 7
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Severely underestimating possible beast Cuylle here. Pass
31 juill. 2022 à 2 h 31
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Quoting: justaBoss
I'd counter with Dellandrea+4th for Lundkvist, but I wouldn't move Stankoven for this.


NYR pass on that. We already have Sammy Blais don't need another 2.0 version of that player.
31 juill. 2022 à 2 h 35
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
I still wouldn’t give any of Wyatt, Stank, or Bourque for Nils. Even with value added


The thing is, I think Lundkvist is more likely to become something solid than Stankoven or even Johnston. Look at the number he put up in Swedish elite league against men. Lundkvist can be Klingberg 2.0. But NYR won't do that trade unless they get center with potential matching or surpassing Stankoven
31 juill. 2022 à 3 h 15
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Lundkvist gets you Dellandrea. You say that Lundkvist holds value because of what he did in Sweden. Dellandrea holds the same value because of the season he just had in the AHL. If New York wants anything better than Dellandrea, then Braden Schneider has to be a part of the discussion.

A team doesn't trade away the top PPG scorer in the OHL, QMJHL, or WHL without acquiring a solid, potentially core piece in return.
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31 juill. 2022 à 3 h 18
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Lundkvist gets you Dellandrea. You say that Lundkvist holds value because of what he did in Sweden. Dellandrea holds the same value because of the season he just had in the AHL. If New York wants anything better than Dellandrea, then Braden Schneider has to be a part of the discussion.

A team doesn't trade away the top PPG scorer in the OHL, QMJHL, or WHL without acquiring a solid, potentially core piece in return.


Then pass for NYR, we will just wait until Lundkvist reaches elite level and get the appropriate return smile
31 juill. 2022 à 3 h 20
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Quoting: AG_sweden
Then pass for NYR, we will just wait until Lundkvist reaches elite level and get the appropriate return smile


I think you're a bit high on Lundkvist, but wish you the best
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31 juill. 2022 à 3 h 25
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Quoting: TheMooterus
I think you're a bit high on Lundkvist, but wish you the best


Well could say the same of your junior guy's too right? time will tell. But I am not shipping Lundkvist, 2nd round pick and Cuylle for Dellandrea, a life time minus player... No way.

Wish you the best too, peace
31 juill. 2022 à 9 h 33
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The thing is, I think Lundkvist is more likely to become something solid than Stankoven or even Johnston. Look at the number he put up in Swedish elite league against men. Lundkvist can be Klingberg 2.0. But NYR won't do that trade unless they get center with potential matching or surpassing Stankoven


Quoting: AG_sweden
Well could say the same of your junior guy's too right? time will tell. But I am not shipping Lundkvist, 2nd round pick and Cuylle for Dellandrea, a life time minus player... No way.

Wish you the best too, peace


You’re cherry picking information to match your narrative. I like Nils and think he could be a very good defenseman. Look what he did in Sweden!! But don’t look at what he did in the NHL and AHL. Yes it’s gonna take time to adjust to the game over here etc. I’m not dumping on the guy. But if he can’t get into the lineup and show he can be an impact player I don’t see NY getting their choice of top center prospects any time soon. And that’s exactly what Wyatt, Stank, and Bourque are. None of these kids are a sure thing, but if Bourque had a similarly unimpressive first pro year in the AHL/NHL I wouldn’t be calling him the forward equivalent of Klinger 2.0 and expecting a top prospect in return. Especially if Dallas had a full roster of centers playing better than him like NY has RHD
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31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 4
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
You’re cherry picking information to match your narrative. I like Nils and think he could be a very good defenseman. Look what he did in Sweden!! But don’t look at what he did in the NHL and AHL. Yes it’s gonna take time to adjust to the game over here etc. I’m not dumping on the guy. But if he can’t get into the lineup and show he can be an impact player I don’t see NY getting their choice of top center prospects any time soon. And that’s exactly what Wyatt, Stank, and Bourque are. None of these kids are a sure thing, but if Bourque had a similarly unimpressive first pro year in the AHL/NHL I wouldn’t be calling him the forward equivalent of Klinger 2.0 and expecting a top prospect in return. Especially if Dallas had a full roster of centers playing better than him like NY has RHD


Yes I understand, but Lundqvist has point record for Swedish SHL league for young defense men, if to look at SHL it took him to years to really blossom I believe we can see the same for north america. But hey if I am Rangers I am okay not trading him, I think next year will be a step forward for him anyway (most likely in the AHL) Because by not trading him and keeping first round pick for 2023 they can draft a Center prospect and in the off-season overpay to get rid of Trouba.
31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 41
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Dallas isn’t trading either of Stankoven, Johnston and Bourque, and certainly not for Lundkvist. I’ve said this many times, Lundkvist gets Dellandrea as they were drafted the same year and have preformed at the same level in the AHL. All 3 of them have wayyy more value than him, they’re on par with Schneider.
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31 juill. 2022 à 11 h 9
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Dallas isn’t trading either of Stankoven, Johnston and Bourque, and certainly not for Lundkvist. I’ve said this many times, Lundkvist gets Dellandrea as they were drafted the same year and have preformed at the same level in the AHL. All 3 of them have wayyy more value than him, they’re on par with Schneider.


Yeah and I've said many times NYR isn't trading Lundkvist for Dellandrea, a career minus player. So then I rather not to trade at all wink
31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 11
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Yes I understand, but Lundqvist has point record for Swedish SHL league for young defense men, if to look at SHL it took him to years to really blossom I believe we can see the same for north america. But hey if I am Rangers I am okay not trading him, I think next year will be a step forward for him anyway (most likely in the AHL) Because by not trading him and keeping first round pick for 2023 they can draft a Center prospect and in the off-season overpay to get rid of Trouba.


A right side of Fox, Schneider, and Nils would be ideal. But I have been told many many times that Trouba won’t waive. He’s over paid but I’d love to see him with Miro if he could talk the missus into Dallas. Would likely need Suter or Lindell going the other way
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31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 14
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Yeah and I've said many times NYR isn't trading Lundkvist for Dellandrea, a career minus player. So then I rather not to trade at all wink


Plus/minus is a very flawed stat that requires context. You were all about Klinger in your other comment. He was nearly a minus 30 this past year. Delly hasn’t progressed as well as one might hope but I honestly think he will have a good year this year if put into a position to succeed just like you hope for Nils
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31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 16
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Dallas isn’t trading either of Stankoven, Johnston and Bourque, and certainly not for Lundkvist. I’ve said this many times, Lundkvist gets Dellandrea as they were drafted the same year and have preformed at the same level in the AHL. All 3 of them have wayyy more value than him, they’re on par with Schneider.


I’m not even sure I’d move any of those guys for Schneider. The ceiling isn’t similar. Would you trade Thomas for Trouba? Obv none of these guys are sure things I’m just making an example based on potential ceilings
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
A right side of Fox, Schneider, and Nils would be ideal. But I have been told many many times that Trouba won’t waive. He’s over paid but I’d love to see him with Miro if he could talk the missus into Dallas. Would likely need Suter or Lindell going the other way


A Lindell I would take if I was GM for NYR.

I agree Trouba won't wave. And yes that contract is about 1,5 M too heavy. I like Trouba (his playing style) but contract is too much for a top 4 d-man.
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NYR pass on that. We already have Sammy Blais don't need another 2.0 version of that player.


He can play C tho, and NYR needs some. Blais is more of a winger guy.
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31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 19
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I’m not even sure I’d move any of those guys for Schneider. The ceiling isn’t similar. Would you trade Thomas for Trouba? Obv none of these guys are sure things I’m just making an example based on potential ceilings


Well I’m obviously not trading Johnston for him, but the two others could be an option. At the end of the day I’d rather keep them all.
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31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 25
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Well I’m obviously not trading Johnston for him, but the two others could be an option. At the end of the day I’d rather keep them all.


Wyatt isn’t a safe bet to be the best of the three. Stankoven has JRob vibes. Bourque is drippy as well even though he’s lost his new car smell
31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 28
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Wyatt isn’t a safe bet to be the best of the three. Stankoven has JRob vibes. Bourque is drippy as well even though he’s lost his new car smell


As of rn he’s by far the best of the 3 so it’s safe to assume he’ll be the best. In my view, I see Johnston becoming a mix of prime Segs and prime Pavelski, and even better.
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As of rn he’s by far the best of the 3 so it’s safe to assume he’ll be the best.


Based on what? Junior point totals?
31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 34
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Based on what? Junior point totals?


Well yeah, what else am I supposed to base it off of? He’s taller, bigger, the most natural centre of the 3, with the eye test I feel like he’s the most talented, etc… I’m not down playing either of them two, I’m just really high on Johnston.
31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 37
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Well yeah, what else am I supposed to base it off of? He’s taller, bigger, the most natural centre of the 3, with the eye test I feel like he’s the most talented, etc… I’m not down playing either of them two, I’m just really high on Johnston.


He is the biggest and smartest of the three. As far as being a natural center, Bourque is right there. It honestly doesn’t matter as all three are amazing and in the same system. I’m just saying Wyatt isn’t for sure the best of the three imo. Will have to wait and see how their games translate
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
He is the biggest and smartest of the three. As far as being a natural center, Bourque is right there. It honestly doesn’t matter as all three are amazing and in the same system. I’m just saying Wyatt isn’t for sure the best of the three imo. Will have to wait and see how their games translate


Fair take, tbf this is the first year that all 3 of them played on another level compared to previous years.

I see them all being in our top 6 in at least 3-5 years.
 
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