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Seeing if Chychrun could work

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Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 28 juill. 2022
Publié: 28 juill. 2022
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Saw someone else propose a Chychrun trade but they also included a ton of other moves that I didn't think were necessary, so I wanted to see if I could make it work without.

As far as the trade goes - if we're in win-now mode, then losing Poulin is irrelevant. Frankly, there's no one in the Pens system right now that feels like they put this roster over the top, so to me they're all expendable as trade pieces.

Someone's going to be the odd man out on that fourth line, and it's starting to feel like Blueger is going to be the guy. For whatever reason, the Pens like Archibald. I have a feeling he wasn't signed to be an AHL guy. Right or wrong, he's in the lineup. The addition of Poehling makes Blueger expendable. You can argue whether or not that's a downgrade but Blueger has a little more trade value than the rest of the bottom 6 right now.

It's clear that the Pens need to do something about their defense. If they haven't moved Pettersson by now, I don't think it's happening. Dumo is more of a cap dump here but with 1 year left on his contract and declining play, I don't think losing him kills us, especially when replacing him with Chychrun. Arizona shouldn't have a problem taking on Dumo but if you have to throw in a small sweetener, whatever. Left POJ and Smith battle it out for 3rd LD in camp.

I highly doubt the Pens will move Zucker and frankly, I don't think they should. He's always injured, I get that, but he brought a ton of energy in the playoffs this year and I think he played the exact style that Hextall and Burke want to see. On the 3rd line, he'll bring some energy and hopefully some scoring if he can stay healthy.

Finally, move either Ruhwedel or Friedman for whatever you can get for them. I think Friedman plays the more physical game, which again is what Hextall and Burke prefer, so he's more likely to stay. But for a 7th D man, you move either one for whatever gets you the best return.

That leaves the Pens with a little over $1 mil in cap space going into the season. According to Rob Rossi (so take it with a grain of salt, lol) Hextall likes having about $2 mil in cap space, but with the flat cap that's not likely going to be possible. Still, $1 mil is a decent cushion for in-season moves if necessary.

No idea if the trade value makes sense or not, I'm sure I'll get roasted in the comments by both sides, but it'd definitely be an interesting move that doesn't require a ton of subsequent moves to make work - and I think it makes this team much better moving forward.

*****EDIT*****
Based on the feedback, I added POJ to the trade. Seems weird since POJ was initially acquired as part of the Kessel trade, but maybe Arizona wants him back now. Josh Yohe has commented in the past that the current Pens management isn't as high on POJ as the previous regime was, so it makes sense that he might be dangled as trade bait, especially with the addition of Smith this off season.
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28 juill. 2022 à 7 h 32
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It works but do u have what Arizona wants value wise? I’m not sure
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It works but do u have what Arizona wants value wise? I’m not sure


That's fair, and like I said I really don't know what the value is, but what else would they be looking for?

* A young, proven bottom 6 guy in Blueger (who I think is RFA controlled? But not sure about that.)
* Pens top prospect in Poulin
* 1st and 2nd rd. picks in next years draft
* Dumo (again is a cap dump so not really valuable to Arizona but)

What else needs added? More picks/prospects? Another roster guy?
28 juill. 2022 à 8 h 1
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That's fair, and like I said I really don't know what the value is, but what else would they be looking for?

* A young, proven bottom 6 guy in Blueger (who I think is RFA controlled? But not sure about that.)
* Pens top prospect in Poulin
* 1st and 2nd rd. picks in next years draft
* Dumo (again is a cap dump so not really valuable to Arizona but)

What else needs added? More picks/prospects? Another roster guy?


I think they want another good D prospect .

Dumoulin + good D prospect + Poulin + 1st + 2nd is probably fair value
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28 juill. 2022 à 8 h 9
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I think they want another good D prospect .

Dumoulin + good D prospect + Poulin + 1st + 2nd is probably fair value


I think P.O. Joseph needs to be included in this deal for there to be a starting conversation.
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I think P.O. Joseph needs to be included in this deal for there to be a starting conversation.


Do they want him back?
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Do they want him back?


I edited trade to add him. They'd probably take him back. They traded him away for Kessel - it's not like they were actively trying to get rid of him - they gave up an asset to gain an asset, so I don't see why they wouldn't want him back.
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Trade talk aside, do you think Chychrun would work well with Letang?
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Trade talk aside, do you think Chychrun would work well with Letang?


It's a valid question and I really don't know. Letang definitely seems to fair better with the traditional stay-at-home partners. But Chychrun and Rutta are listed as both RD and LD, I don't know how comfortable they actually are at playing both sides though. I don't necessarily want to launch Rutta or a guy like Pettersson into the top pair, but it would be nice to have some flexibility of having guys who really can play either side without any drop off so you can mix and match the pairings to find what would work.
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