I think signing Rodriquez to a 5x4 is a bad call for the Lightning

With all the big extensions tampa needs Killorn, Cole, and Namestnikov coming off their deals

Dallas doesn’t have the cap space to take Killorn. Def not interested in giving up valuable pieces to take him off Tampa’s hands either

Excellant point

Glad you think nil is brain damaged because thats as dumb a deal for TB as i can think of guys averaging 22 goals 25 assists over the last 3 seaons protated for 82 games is 26 g 36 a and is a top ppk guy making less than 4,5 is a bargain

What about his 4 assists in 23 playoff games? I’m not saying Killorn isn’t a good player. But he’s a 32 year old rental. He isn’t an impact player any more and GMs aren’t giving first and second round picks away like candy. Even with a third coming back. Look what Dallas has been able to do in the second round lately

We about the 13 goalls and 14 assists in tge 2 previous playoffs basing,Killorns value on one bad playoff where his analysis were still good is absolutely assinine

Just as asinine as ignoring a possible fall off in play. Jamie Benn has an Art Ross trophy. You gonna give me full value for him??

Just saying thats an absurd comparison to what he just said

DebTing you is like debating a stubborn ignorant 14 year old

It was an over the top example of what I was trying to get at. Never said it’s the same thing. Just trying to make a point. God forbid a total stranger disagrees with y’all on the internet

very bad

Completely absurd comparison Benn 5.05 million higher cap hit and drastically less production over the last 3 year.
Benn from 19/20-21/22 203games 48 goals 72 assists 120 pts with 2 playoff appearances 34 games 9 goals 12 assists 21 points with a $9,500,000 cap hit.
Killorn 206 games 66 goals 75 assists 141 points with 3 playoff appearances 66 games 13 goals17 30 points with a $4,450,000 cap hit and these are remotely comparable to You? BTW Alex Killorn is a top PK guy too and doesn't play on TB's top line. Benn has every advantage over Killorn and drastically comes up short in all areas. Alex Killorn has had his 3 most productive seasons the last 3 what about that makes one think hmmm he's falling off? really?!!!!

TB doesn't need Holl and can't afford another RD

Y’all need to chill. I was just trying to make a point 🤦‍♂️

an awful one obviously

Not really. I get the impression it’s a misunderstood one. Killorn might be fine. Or he might be starting to decline. Somebody might give full value for him, but assuming a poor playoff performance doesn’t effect his trade value seems off to me. People can disagree without being rude to each other

You chose a guy with over double the cap hit with substanially less production who's production has steadily decreased. who is signed 3 more years on a buyout proof contract because the majority of the salary is bonus not eligible for buy-out. While the player You compared him to has had his most productive years has less than half the cap hit. It was an awful comparison

There’s the misunderstanding right there. You think I’m comparing Benn and Killorn. I’m not. I mentioned Killorn’s poor playoff performance (his most recent hockey) and the person I was talking to said “yeah but he did this in previous years”. If multiple people misunderstood what I was getting at then the fault is likely with me and how I said it. But my point was that there may be a decline in play there. Guys don’t always bounce back after a rough stretch over the age of 30. I brought up Benn not as a comparison, but was showing what a player has done in the past doesn’t always mean he’s that player any more and a smart GM should pay attention to potential red flags like that. I hope this clears up my intentions. If not y’all can just keep insulting me I guess. I’ll go have a productive conversation elsewhere. Cheers

I see. Benn's trophy was a lot longer ago, and yes, he isnt gonna be getting any better. But I think Killorn is still a top 6 winger who can play net front presence on a powerplay. I dont think we can judge him completetly from 23 playoff games

I think he will still be a good player as well. But a playoff no show is concerning. Couple that with the fact that Tampa is over the cap and nobody is taking cap without substantial value (doesn’t seem to matter if it’s good cap or bad cap). Maybe a second and third round pick swap is reasonable but I feel like teams are doing consistently well in the top two rounds. Dallas doesn’t have the cap for this trade to begin with. If we did the overall value isn’t terrible. But can you imagine giving away one of Hintz, JRob, Stankoven, (possibly Kyrou if he continues to improve as drastically as he did this past year)…. For one year of Killorn (I don’t see Nill swapping a player he just drafted in the third round for a third rounder next year. Seems sideways and maybe even backwards if they already have a guy they really like). Completely unrelated to this conversation, but don’t sleep on Benn if he’s fully healthy and has a good summer. We have several young forwards that might slot nicely on a third line with him and get more out of him. Worth his contract? Absolutely not. But maybe 60 points if he clicks with some of the younger players and they can get some softer competition

Taking a 23 game period out of most productive 266 games the last 266 he's played when he was most likely playing severely hurt and saying he's declining is a MASSIVE STRETCH!!!!!!