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Créé par: jonh514
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 15 juill. 2022
Publié: 15 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
3900 000 $
21 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Ekholm, Mattias
Détails additionnels:
Habs get a great return for Petry, but a player that plays on the left instead of the right
NSH
  1. Petry, Jeff
Détails additionnels:
Preds get to shift some of their massive defense spend from the left side to the right. McDonagh made Ekholm expendable especially with Lauzon waiting in the wings
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
Détails additionnels:
Nashville get's a winger who can play on either side to help fill out their lineup
NSH
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
Détails additionnels:
Habs don't get max value on Dadonov, but get the needed cap space
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $75 251 666 $1 132 500 $5 070 000 $7 248 334 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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UFA - 5
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 4
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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UFA - 5
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 4
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
RFA - 2
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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15 juill. 2022 à 7 h 57
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Vegas had to pay a second to get rid of Dadonov, you won't receive any assets for him and Ekholm is far supperior to Petry.
15 juill. 2022 à 8 h 11
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Vegas had to pay a second to get rid of Dadonov, you won't receive any assets for him and Ekholm is far supperior to Petry.


Sooooo you wanna 24 Million on the left defense?!
15 juill. 2022 à 8 h 25
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You are a reason why people make fun of Habs fans ... Dadonov is a cap dump with negative value but when those players come to MTL, they suddently have value lol
15 juill. 2022 à 8 h 30
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You are a reason why people make fun of Habs fans ... Dadonov is a cap dump with negative value but when those players come to MTL, they suddently have value lol


I thought you were not going to reply to me anymore because you don't respect my opinions. Why are you talking to me now?

Dadonov at 20 goals and 43 points and 1 year left on his deal is actually one of the best scoring Habs. If he has no value then no Habs have value. Also we can buy him out for 600K and so could any other team, so he's low risk.
15 juill. 2022 à 8 h 32
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Quoting: jonh514
I thought you were not going to reply to me anymore because you don't respect my opinions. Why are you talking to me now?

Dadonov at 20 goals and 43 points and 1 year left on his deal is actually one of the best scoring Habs. If he has no value then no Habs have value. Also we can buy him out for 600K and so could any other team, so he's low risk.


Vegas would have trade him
No teams were interested
15 juill. 2022 à 8 h 40
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Vegas would have trade him
No teams were interested


Si tu veut engager avec moi, tu devra d'abord me prouver que t'es pas un troll.
15 juill. 2022 à 8 h 40
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Quoting: jonh514
Sooooo you wanna 24 Million on the left defense?!


If Nashville were to trade Ekholm they could get alot better package than Petry. They are not trading him for an older player, they would be looking to get younger.
15 juill. 2022 à 8 h 45
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Quoting: mikearky
If Nashville were to trade Ekholm they could get alot better package than Petry. They are not trading him for an older player, they would be looking to get younger.


I guess. I would have thought the same about Burns, Pacioretty, both of the Strome boys. This offseason is all about cap room. Nashville brought in McDonagh... So Ekholm is either playing on the right or moving out...
15 juill. 2022 à 8 h 48
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HABSOLUTELYNOT the Habs will not take a loss on Dadonov . With Hughes if Montreal doesn’t get prospects or value he not going to do it. Petry not being moved is what Hughes thought process is at this time. Because you can flip him at trade deadline next year. VALUE,VALUE CAP ROOM.
15 juill. 2022 à 8 h 52
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HABSOLUTELYNOT the Habs will not take a loss on Dadonov . With Hughes if Montreal doesn’t get prospects or value he not going to do it. Petry not being moved is what Hughes thought process is at this time. Because you can flip him at trade deadline next year. VALUE,VALUE CAP ROOM.


Are you responding to my trade sir, or to the replies that say we need to pay a 2nd to cap dump him, or both?
15 juill. 2022 à 8 h 53
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Quoting: jonh514
Sooooo you wanna 24 Million on the left defense?!


That's not ideal but it's better than Downgrading and taking a cap dump for a usefull player.
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That's not ideal but it's better than Downgrading and taking a cap dump for a usefull player.


Did you just say Petry is a cap dump? Don't you think that's a bit of a ridiculous assessment? Can you backup why he's a cap dump in any logical way?
15 juill. 2022 à 9 h 3
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Quoting: jonh514
Did you just say Petry is a cap dump? Don't you think that's a bit of a ridiculous assessment? Can you backup why he's a cap dump in any logical way?


His contract is very similar to McDonagh who just was traded for a bag of pucks even if he was a very important piece for three consecutive stanley cup final. Petry is older and was awful the last season. Montreal might get something in return but it's not gonna be much.
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15 juill. 2022 à 9 h 37
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His contract is very similar to McDonagh who just was traded for a bag of pucks even if he was a very important piece for three consecutive stanley cup final. Petry is older and was awful the last season. Montreal might get something in return but it's not gonna be much.


But conversely ... Ekholm, who had the same number of goals and 8 more assists than Petry is worth a lot more?

Petry has 322 pts in 807 games or 0.399 pts pr game historically
Ekholm has 250 pts in 662 games or 0.377 pts per game historically

Still you are condemning him because he had a bad run for 2.5 months while the Habs had a historically bad coach and a historically bad run of injuries? How is any of that logical?
15 juill. 2022 à 10 h 7
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Quoting: jonh514
But conversely ... Ekholm, who had the same number of goals and 8 more assists than Petry is worth a lot more?

Petry has 322 pts in 807 games or 0.399 pts pr game historically
Ekholm has 250 pts in 662 games or 0.377 pts per game historically

Still you are condemning him because he had a bad run for 2.5 months while the Habs had a historically bad coach and a historically bad run of injuries? How is any of that logical?


Ekholm strengh is his defensive game you can't compare their offensive stats to say whose better. He wasn't just bad last season, at times he wasn't even looking like an NHL dman. He might bounce back and I hope so, I like him. But with his past season, his attitude, his age and his contract, it'S a huge gamble to take and I don't see any team willing to give up good assets for that gamble.
15 juill. 2022 à 10 h 55
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Ekholm strengh is his defensive game you can't compare their offensive stats to say whose better. He wasn't just bad last season, at times he wasn't even looking like an NHL dman. He might bounce back and I hope so, I like him. But with his past season, his attitude, his age and his contract, it'S a huge gamble to take and I don't see any team willing to give up good assets for that gamble.


Nashville is in the same situation though. The team would be better if they moved some of that LD money to the RD and then signed some middle 2-3 middle 6 forwards. The spend they have on LD is a recipe for mediocrity because you want to play Josi 25 minutes per game so you are severely overpaying for 2 other LD to play 17.5 minutes per game. The team is unbalanced. Each of McD or Ek can handle 22 min per game so it's a waste to have the other guy for what... 13 min?

And who is gonna take that 6.25m on? There are almost no teams with money to spend.
15 juill. 2022 à 11 h 1
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Nashville is in the same situation though. The team would be better if they moved some of that LD money to the RD and then signed some middle 2-3 middle 6 forwards. The spend they have on LD is a recipe for mediocrity because you want to play Josi 25 minutes per game so you are severely overpaying for 2 other LD to play 17.5 minutes per game. The team is unbalanced. Each of McD or Ek can handle 22 min per game so it's a waste to have the other guy for what... 13 min?

And who is gonna take that 6.25m on? There are almost no teams with money to spend.


Having too much high quality dman isn't a problem, Nashville is doing just fine especially concidering they still have almost 10 millions under the cap.
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