Holl and Engvall have more value than that.

I can't believe I am saying that.

Replace Hirvonen with Knies to open discussions and even then, there will be better offers elsewhere so would need to think about what else could be added.

There definitely will not be better offers than two first round picks and 2 A- prospects.

Considering one of those will be the conversation starter to dump your disappointing goalie contract still owed 7.6 in cap and 8.6 in real salary, I am pretty sure there will be better offers then a pair of late 20's picks and a pair of Leaf delusion prospects that are a year or two away from the bubble burst and reality (aka how the rest of the league actually looks at over hyped Leaf prospects).

Oh yeah you're a scout and definitely know that they have inflated value. Right on bud, you got it.

I disagree, they are likely to be picks 25 and later and I'm not convinced those prospects would be viewed the same way but for arguments sake lets say they are. Mrazek cap dump removes one of the prospects value in the proposal and the 2 late picks and remaining prospect aren't enticing enough for CHI as their viewed ceiling won't be close to near where CAT is currently which is what we should be looking for. Its not a proposal I would be excited about and in fact I would be disappointed as I feel its a worse return than what Hagel got....